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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:39 pm Post subject: Re: Is their any good public servers anymore? Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:51 pm Post subject: Re: Is their any good public servers anymore? Reply with quote
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 One  thing  that  would  have  been  nice  for  the  noghost  scoreboard  that  is  seen  in  the  nemesis  scoreboard  is  the  server  name.  Kind  of  would  help  to  know  where  the  screenshots  came  from  after  all.  Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Is their any good public servers anymore? Reply with quote
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Wolf  wrote  (View  Post):
Mav  doesn't  care  about  opinions?   No  of  course  not,  he  only  scripted  the  NoGhost  server  side  mod  and  client  side  mod  based  off  the  opinions  of  the  community.   At  least  95%  of  the  features  you  have  are  player  requested,  not  to  mention   the  fact  that  the  client  side  mod  itself  was  created  due  to  overwhelming  request  from  the  players.   Perhaps  you  should  acknowledge  the  fact  that  Mav  has  a  career  (yeah,  because  surprise.   Modding  for  FREE  doesn't  pay  out  that  well),  a  wife  and  a  newborn  child  to  take  care  of  before  assuming  that  because  options  you  posted  on  www.noghost.net  (which  if  you  requested  there  with  people  who  also  support  the  idea,  he  stickied  for  later  implementation)  were  ignored.
 
 Not  sorry  for  the  spam.   :3


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:41 pm Post subject: Re: Is their any good public servers anymore? Reply with quote
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 Mmmm~   Spam.   Someone  needs  to  flame  me  so  I  can  has  fried  spam!   <3
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Is their any good public servers anymore? Reply with quote
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 Lol  Think  It's  time  to  face  that  we're  holding  on  to  a  game  that  is  slowly  dying.  I  only  know  of  Pills  2k9  H$  and  VZX  server  everything  else  is  empty,  not  even  any  good  CTF  servers.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: Is their any good public servers anymore? Reply with quote
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 i  has  something  to  say  "I'm  rich  bitch"  A  David  Chappelle  Quote!
 
 The  reluctance  of  people  to  play  in  auth  servers  shows  the  truth  that  people  are  afraid  to  f2  big  time..  nothing  else.
 
 I  know  most  of  us  despise  demo  players  and  their  ridiculous  
 rate@3000  and  snaps@20  &  maxpackets@30  which  makes  them  lag  and  un-hitable..  whats  sick  is  the  players  with  full  trying  to  mimic  demo  players  with  3000(client  less)  to  5000  rate  and  20(client  less)30  snaps(client)  etc  ..  and  failing  miserably..
 
 My  goal  was  to  find  auth  strict  servers  that  are  busy..  And  as  I  thought  there  aren't  any..  We  tried  in  the  past  and  found  out  quick  that  as  I  said  before,  players  in  1.16  are  chicken  to  play  even  close  to  the  fair  line  of  compromise..  Sad  really..  When  so  many  1.16  players  go  on  how  PRO  they  are..it's  a  joke  in  many  eyes  how  weak  1.16  has  become...
 
 I  was  in  a  public  yesterday  and  another  noob  with  30  ping  changed  his  settings  to  3000/20/40:1  and  I  loled..
 
 I  was  like,  man  this  kid  is  so  lame  and  to  top  it  off  he  was  terrible.  I  watched  like  5  or  6  people  chasing  him  around  the  map  all  shooting  at  him  and  missing  in  tandem..when  he  finally  got  hit,   Everyone  loled  and  he  was  like  "I'm  so  pro  you  noobs!  See  how  I  evaded  you  all,  I'm  so  great  and  1.32  is  where  the  pros  are"  Rubbish  yes!
 
 I  see  on  average  over  1/2  of  the  players  in  public  just  lagging  whether  by  downloading  while  playing  of  just  pure  ignorance...  Maybe  time  for  the  max_ping  cmd  once  again.  
 
 I  begged  mav  to  update  the  mod  the  drop  3000  rate  and  make  the  new  low  8000  and  snaps  30  minimum  without  the  use  of  the  client  as  a  limiter,  cause  most  of  these  noobs  will  do  anything  not  to  use  the  client..or  complain  that  they  prefer  the  hackers  choice  in  Nemesis,  so  all  demo  users  are  getting  away  with  more  that  just  lag  bombs.
 
 24/slot+  1.16  @  the  public  level  is  lame  duck  fragging.
 
 As  always  if  you  know  of  a  busy  servers  post'em//
 1.  Also  beg  mav  to  release  his  .DLL  if  you  ever  talk  to  him
 2.  Ask  him  to  remove  unlagged  /delag  code  completely  from  any  further  builds  and/or  offer  same  build  but  without  the  unlagged  code.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: Is their any good public servers anymore? Reply with quote
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 When  I'm  not  busy,  I'll  pop  in  once  in  a  while.   I  usually  end  up  fighting  bones  though.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Is their any good public servers anymore? Reply with quote
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__Smokey__  wrote  (View  Post):
well  there  is  another  rail  only  server  other  then  dallas  that  is  up  and  FORCES  you  to  have  the  noghost  155  mod  its  located  in  chicago  and  owned  by  the  2k  clan
 
 208.100.42.50:27960  
 
 


 
 
 sorry  but  i  had  to  repost  this...  im  sure  if  u  guys  play  there  enough  is  will  draw  more  people  to  it,  and  we  can  let  the  demo  players  stay  on  the  dallas  server..
 
 to  add  if  there  is  anything  u  feel  needs  to  be  tweaked  on  the  cfg  let  me  know  and  ill  see  what  i  can  do
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Is their any good public servers anymore? Reply with quote
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 Chicago  sucks.   I  want  a  server  like  that  in  Florida.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Is their any good public servers anymore? Reply with quote
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 Florida  sucks,  I  want  one  in  my  room.
 
 nice  post  tog.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:50 am Post subject: Re: Is their any good public servers anymore? Reply with quote
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Core  wrote  (View  Post):
Florida  sucks,  I  want  one  in  my  room.
 


 
 LMAO
 
 +1  Core;  we  need  servers  located  in  Pennsylvania!  Muhahaha.
 
 In  all  seriousness,  all  I  find  in  this  community  is  frustration.   A  lot  of  what  tog  said  holds  great  merit.   The  saddest  part  of  the  reality  is  what  he  noted  about  players  with  full  q3  emultating  these  demo  players  with  their  shitty  connection  settings.
 
 I  have  a  great  example  from  last  evening  @  2k9  Texas  -  I  was  actually  enjoying  myself  a  lot  (which  is  saying  something  considering  I  generally  get  bored  5  minutes  after  joining  a  q3  game  these  days).   Then  Fatey  arrives  (30  ping,  3000  rate,  30  maxpackets,  20  snaps).   He  keeps  ghosting  through  people  shooting  him  and  within  2  or  3  minutes  half  of  my  team  had  d/c  (we  started  with  9  or  10  people).   The  sad  part  is  you  are  left  with  the  choice  of  dealing  with  these  players  or  doing  as  Wolf  said;  going  to  an  authenticated  server  and  playing  a  bot  for  25  rounds  because  nobody  else  seems  to  ever  connect.   On  a  partially  related  note,  I  would  hope  no  players  like  these  are  in  clans  -  it  should  be  a  pretty  normal  practice  to  require  your  players  to  use  legit  settings  (I  honestly  don't  care  what  your  geographic  location  is  or  how  slow  your  isp  is  -  nobody  is  on  dial  up  these  days).
 
 Speaking  from  my  experiences  with  Desire  so  far,  the  only  time  anyone  connects  in  significant  #'s  is  when  people  go  above  and  beyond  and  reach  out  to  players  on  xfire  to  organize  a  PUG.   It  doesn't  sound  like  much  work,  but  when  people  just  want  to  get  on  a  server  and  frag  a  few  people  most  cannot  be  bothered  to  organize  such  a  thing  (personally,  I've  gotten  lazy  when  it  comes  to  community-related  events).   People  just  need  to  start  hanging  out  on  the  few  authenticated  servers  we  do  have,  sit  in  spec  if  you  must  for  a  bit.   What  I  used  to  suggest  is  join  a  server  with  a  buddy,  it  only  takes  one.   Play  a  game  or  two  and  generally  some  people  start  to  pop  on,  especially  if  you  have  many  friends  on  xfire  and  your  status  shows  the  server  you  are  on.
 
 Otherwise,  we  all  have  one  choice  at  this  point:
 
 1)  Accept  the  fact  there  will  always  be  a  handful  of  people  on  servers  who  skip  and  are  probably  able  to  correct  the  problem  but  simply  refuse.
 
 or  
 
 2)  Move  onto  a  different  form  of  fragging,  after  all  this  game  is  starting  to  really  get  up  there  in  years.
 
 Those  are  the  only  real  choices  I  see  beyond  people  making  a  habit  of  hanging  out  at  the  "safer"  servers.   Although  I'm  not  entirely  sure  how  much  of  a  difference  it  makes  that  Noghost  strict  forces  people  to  use  at  least  5,000  rate  for  example  (not  sure  if  that's  the  exact  minimum,  I  forget).   But  it's  a  step  in  the  right  direction  at  least.
 
 Anyway..
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:39 am Post subject: Re: Is their any good public servers anymore? Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:32 am Post subject: Re: Is their any good public servers anymore? Reply with quote
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p1x3L  wrote  (View  Post):
You  type  too  much.


 
 It's  only  because  it  takes  so  many  words  to  express  my  true  love  for  you.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Is their any good public servers anymore? Reply with quote
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ReAper  wrote  (View  Post):

 (I  honestly  don't  care  what  your  geographic  location  is  or  how  slow  your  isp  is  -  nobody  is  on  dial  up  these  days).


 
 I  do  believe  sketch  has  the  equivalent  of  dial  up.  it's  not  "dial  up"  but  his  max  d/l  is  56  kb/s.  Surprised
 
 nice  post.
 
 
 Also,  setting  up  a  home  server  really  isn't  that  hard  if  you  want  one  in  your  "backyard"  :P  (I  do  this  for  cpma,  as  the  closest  server  to  me  I  ping  around  90...)  just  make  sure  you  have  enough  bandwidth  so  people  one  state  away  don't  have  200  ping.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: Is their any good public servers anymore? Reply with quote
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 You  download  at  like  3-5  kb/s  with  dial  up  lol.
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