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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha. Reply with quote
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 Ok  I'll  guess  I  will  take  time  out  of  my  day  to  make  a  post  on  here  since  I  get  non  stop  xfire  and  msn  messages.
 
 I'v  been  around  long  enough  to  know  how  any  of  these  topics  go  and  to  realize  what  the  outcome  of  them  will  be  80%  of  the  time.  I  don't  feel  the  need  to  come  here  and  debate  this  topic  with  20  people  or  more  and  answer  everyone's  questions  one  by  one,  as  it  will  not  matter  what  is  said  from  me,  clan  members  or  people  who  know  I  am  not  cheating.  This  topic  is  posted  on  o2o  which  from  what  I  have  seen  in  many  previous  experiences  a  very  one  sided  opinionated  clan.  I'm  not  saying  what  is  said  here  doesn't  mean  anything  however  I  think  that  it  would  of  been  in  a  smarter  interest  to  get  the  opinions  of  refs  and  admins  and  then  post.
 
 I  Have  spoken  with  leg,  and  have  spoken  with  some  refs  in  immense  detail  of  the  demos  and  the  shots  recorded  and  my  take  on  the  demos.  In  this  dieing  community  I  think  it  is  important  to  have  the  opinions  and  conclusions  of  those  who  have  reffed  for  many  years  with  experience.  
 
 So  once  again  my  absence  of  posts  to  this  topic  has  been  because  I  am  not  going  to  flame  back  an  forth,  as  it  will  eventually  turn  into  flaming  with  a  topic  locked  and  o2o's  conclusion  on  the  topic  and  how  they  would  like  it  handled.  I  have  an  xfire,  and  anything  can  be  debated  or  questioned  there.
 
 Bye.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha. Reply with quote
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 ^^^  
 
 Thats  why  this  was  not  just  posted  on  o2o  but  on  era  and  pwp.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha. Reply with quote
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 What  you  do  not  know  is  that  this  topic  was  posted  for  a  couple  days  where  community  refs  were  able  to  view  and  make  comments  on  the  demos.  It  was  not  public.
 
 We  will  take  all  opinions  into  consideration,  which  is  why  this  is  in  a  public  forum.  We  will  not  take  consideration  to  posts  that  say  "I  played  him,  he  owned  me,  he  must  be  hacking"  or  "I  am  in  his  clan,  he  is  clean."
 
 It  is  odd  that  your  main  defenses  are:
 
 Get  admins  and  refs  to  review:  CHECK
 o2o  is  one  sided:
 
 Odd  that  you  didn't  say  "I  don't  hack".  Thank  you  for  posting.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha. Reply with quote
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 Hydro's  take:
 
 .iv'hydro:  if  theres  3  shots
 .iv'hydro:  exactly  on  the  enemy
 .iv'hydro:  through  the  wall
 .iv'hydro:  i  would  be  skeptical  after  1st  shot
 .iv'hydro:  the  chancees  of  accidently  shooting
 .iv'hydro:  exactly  at  the  enemy  through  a  wall
 .iv'hydro:  are  near  impossible
 .iv'hydro:  lol
 .iv'hydro:  or  very  rare
 p1x3L:  yeah
 p1x3L:  lol
 .iv'hydro:  plus  a  good  player  who  knows  how  to  play
 .iv'hydro:  wouldnt  accidently
 .iv'hydro:  shoot  
 .iv'hydro:  unless  hes  trying  to  railjump
 .iv'hydro:  lol
 p1x3L:  lol
 p1x3L:  even  if  he's  railjumping
 p1x3L:  thats  not  accidentally  shooting  lol
 .iv'hydro:  he  wouldnt  railjump
 .iv'hydro:  backwards
 .iv'hydro:  when  hes  going  from  YH  to  quad
 .iv'hydro:  lol
 .iv'hydro:  so  that  throws  that  out
 p1x3L:  lol  yup
 .iv'hydro:  andi   highly  doubt  it  accidently  pressed  the  mouse  button
 .iv'hydro:  'lol
 p1x3L:  three  times  lol
 .iv'hydro:  a  skilled  player  who  knows  how  to  shoot
 .iv'hydro:  doesnt  do  that
 .iv'hydro:  lol
 .iv'hydro:  especially  3x
 p1x3L:  goshhhh
 .iv'hydro:  through  a  wall  exactly  at  the  enemy
 p1x3L:  post  this  on  the  forums  nub  :P
 .iv'hydro:  dont  feel  like  it
 .iv'hydro:  just  ss  this
 .iv'hydro:  and  post  it  lol
 p1x3L:  lol
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha. Reply with quote
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 Thats  just  true,  there  can  be  nothing  accidentily  in  those  3  shots.  Luck  and  stuff  excist,  but  not  in  this  way.
 
 I  used  wallhack  myself  few  years  ago  as  u  know,  so  for  me  this  is  pure  wallhack,  nothing  else.
 
 To  bad  potcha,  but  youre  not  getting  away  with  this  1.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha. Reply with quote
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potcha  wrote  (View  Post):

 
   I  am  not  cheating.  

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha. Reply with quote
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 ggs  potcha  Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha. Reply with quote
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 I  agree  with  potcha,  I  tend  to  refrain  from  posting  on  these  forums  for  the  same  reasons.Sad  that  its  a  few  members  doing  it  though.  And  we  don't  care  what  hydro  has  to  say.if  its  really  important  let  him  come  post  it.  But  I  would  like  to  hear  what  more  people  got  to  say..as  for  now  if  he  plays  i  suggest  demoing  if  you  feel  its  necessary.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha. Reply with quote
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cLa$$ic  wrote  (View  Post):
I  agree  with  potcha,  I  tend  to  refrain  from  posting  on  these  forums  for  the  same  reasons.Sad  that  its  a  few  members  doing  it  though.  And  we  don't  care  what  hydro  has  to  say.if  its  really  important  let  him  come  post  it.  But  I  would  like  to  hear  what  more  people  got  to  say..as  for  now  if  he  plays  i  suggest  demoing  if  you  feel  its  necessary.


 
 Why  has  my  username  been  deleted  two  times  on  inhuman?  Including  other  members  as  well?  (sorry  to  post  this  here  but  since  I  cannot  post  on  inhuman)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha. Reply with quote
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 Delete?  Idk.Banned  couple  before,  but  I  don't  know  whats  going  on.Unless  you  use  a  unknown  username  then  its  deleted,  I  believe.Try  re-registering  and  I'll  have  bird  check  on  it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha. Reply with quote
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p1x3L  wrote  (View  Post):
Let's  say  for  every  1000  times  you  go  into  yh  with  an  enemy  in  quad  you  shoot  the  stairs  once  (that's  lightly  putting  it).
 
 Let's  also  say  that  only  1  out  of  10  times  of  those  yh  shots  is  your  crosshair  directly  on  an  enemy.   
 
 Using  simple  algebra,  you  can  calculate  that  the  yh  stair  shot  with  an  enemy  directly  in  your  crosshair  would  occur  1  time  every  10000  times  you're  in  yh  with  an  enemy  in  quad.  
 
 Now,  let's  calculate  the  chances  of  that  happening  3  times.
 
 1/10000  x  1/10000  x  1/10000  =  1/1,000,000,000,000
 
 One  out  of  one  trillion  times.  
 
 Coincidence?


 
 stressed  out  for  my  exams.  So  I  might  be  wrong.
 
 1/10  =  0.1  yh  shots  is  the  crosshair  directly  on  an  enemy
 and  0.1  x  1000  =  100  [is  how  much  in  1000  times]
 
 therefore,  
 
 100/1000  =  1/10  is  the  probability  of  having  the  crosshair  directly  in  1  out  of  10  from  1000  times.
 
 no  matter  what,  the  percentage  is  already  given  so  how  many  times  you  did  it  will  not  affect  the  probability.
 
 and  about  the  3  shots,  I  don't  know  how  you  calculated  that  (not  enough  information...),  but  ASSUMING  the  shots  3  shots  are  calculated  using  (1/10)(1/10)(1/10)  then  it  would  be  equal  to  1/1000.  Although  it's  a  very  small  amount  but  not  as  small  as  1/trillion.
 
 Your  second  theory  was  pretty  much  stupid  too.
 
 If  I  start  any  flame  from  here  on  and/or  I'm  wrong,  I  will  GLADLY  apologize.  I  don't  mind  being  stupid.  
 and  I  love  what  you  pulled  to  Classic.  You  should  work  for  the  government  !  and  can  you  guys  take  out  sBs  beside  Potcha  because  it  makes  sBs  looks  stupid.xD
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha. Reply with quote
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 Your  english  obviously  led  to  a  flaw  in  your  understanding  of  what  I  typed.  
 
 "and  0.1  x  1000  =  100  [is  how  much  in  1000  times]"
 
 He  will  only  shoot  the  stairs  in  yh  once  in  1000  times.  
 
 1/1000  x  1/10
 
 Even  though  my  second  theory  was  added  only  because  I  wanted  to  do  more  math,  under  those  assumptions,  it's  still  highly  valid.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha. Reply with quote
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 ^  Its  1/10  out  of  those  1/1000  shots  which  is:  0.1  x  0.0001  =  1/10000  
 Uh,  to  post  something  on  topic,  which  community  refs  have  actually  viewed  the  demos?
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 I  believe  Cat  posted  this  in  ue's  ref  section  for  me,  although  I  don't  think  there  has  been  a  response  from  their  end  yet.
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dun7ez  wrote  (View  Post):
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   I  am  not  cheating.  



 
 
potcha  wrote  (View  Post):
clan  members  or  people  who  know  I  am  not  cheating.


 
 
 he  never  said  "I  AM  NOT  CHEATING"  he  simply  just  said  that  other  people  know  hes  not  cheating  =]  and  maybe  what  these  people  think  they  "know"  isnt  the  truth.
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