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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:10 pm Post subject: Philosophy

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I don't know if this should be in here, but it seems like philosophy and thats a type of writing thing, anyways here it goes.

What would happen if an unstoppable force collided with an immovable object?

and it bounce off, cause in order to do that it HAS to stop

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Philosophy

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Lmao weirdo.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Philosophy

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again with spam...serious answers only people

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:41 pm Post subject: Re: Philosophy

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It sort of depends upon the shape of the immovable object hehe.. Which direction it's forced to move. For if the objecct itself isn't perfectly flat which is highly unlikely given the force could come from at an angle, it is very doubtful that the unstoppable force will even make a full stop upon contact since it's just being redirected at a new direction..

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:29 pm Post subject: Re: Philosophy

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I totally understood that. Rolling Eyes

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 7:45 am Post subject: Re: Philosophy

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K!kyo is right. If the unstoppable force comes in at any angle that is not perpendicular to the surface of the immovable object, the force will be redirected back out at the same angle with which it came in, and will NOT have to be stopped in order to do so. PHYSICS FTW!!

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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: Philosophy

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ok then here is a diagram

Force---> | Object

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: Philosophy

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Force ----> |Object

Force|Object

ecroF <----- |Object

that's how it'd go. Or the energy will be transferred to the object which then will go up/down/through it, or bounce the object back.

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: Philosophy

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Well.. If that were the case Senator.. then the force would just stay stuck to the object from whatever is fueling its unlimited momentum.. It's speed would drop to 0, but it will still be moving in place until just the slightest change in the objects angle occurs. I guess it would be considered stopping if it stays contained at one spot without going anywhere. Of course if there was an impact at first, it probably might bounce off in the exact opposite direction only to return again after changing directions back towards the object just like how a ball bounces off the ground and eventually heads back down to the floor again. But being as you mentioned it being an unstoppable force, that is unlikely to occur and it will just stick to the object like super glue in the end.

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:18 pm Post subject: Re: Philosophy

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it can't stop, and it can't bounce cause it has to stop inorder to bounce.

to be honest i've asked my physics teacher last year and she said that the universe will implode ( Confused

), then i asked the head physics teacher at our school (he wrote the physics text book). and he said that he doesn't know what will happen. and i've even put it up on to physics forums and stuff and got no logical answers. most of the answers are like what you guys have givin, like bouncing off, or going through. but the immovable object means that it none of it's molecules move, and inorder to make a hole for the force to go through you would need to rearrage the molecular structure of the immoveable object.

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Philosophy

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its impossible to tell what would happen because there is no realistic scenario in which this can occur.

There are no immovable objects in this world, just as there are no unstoppable forces.

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: Philosophy

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thinking about some more, IF THIS WERE TO OCCUR in some shape or form, it seems like the entire force from the unstoppable force would be converted into a frictonal force between the surface on which the object rests and the object itself, against the direction of motion that the immovable object would have taken on that surface, thereby keeping the immovable object at rest and preserving the entire force from the unstoppable force, just now as friction instead.

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: Philosophy

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well i know it's not realiztic, you just have to use your imagination, thats why i said what if..

so what you are saying is that the force will be turned into friction against the object? if so, then that cannot happen either because the force is perpendicular to the object and is headed straight for it, and can't change the force unless the force changes state of matter.

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: Re: Philosophy

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As I have said before in my last post, The unstoppable force will not move from its spot upon the flat surface of the immovable object, unless interefered with by some outside force. (Which was not mentioned anyways so no need to worry about that).

Also i agree that there can't be any friction since the force is being pointed directly at the object. Friction can only be a factor when the force is in motion against something, but in this case its just standing still even if it is still trying to move against it.

As far as I can tell though.. There isn't much else to say that can possibly occur from this that is already known.. Basically all I can answer is nothing will or can happen..

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