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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:00 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

p1x3L
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And Jorel: There's no way you're going to able to make a valid point using a recreated shot because it would be YOUR view on how it happened and therefore would be biased.

And for the other half of you: You guys realize you're making an argument based on "because so and so can't do it, no one else can."

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:09 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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LOL wait, ice are you trying to say that you would beat stermy in insta rail only?

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:23 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

p1x3L
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JoReL wrote (View Post):

Now you guys know I never say something without add a proof but this time I'm gonna do it because I know it happened, Merky dropped in a server hosted by sean, he was testing hacks and If sean is enough man to come here and say it, even more if he comes with the logs or merky wanna post here accepting it. It was more or less one year before he got accused in his first topic (posted by kikyo).

1) That was in a private server.
2) They were demoing to see how merky actually played with an autofire (it was detectable).
3) Certain refs knew about the experiment beforehand.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:01 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

K!kyo
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I still remember when I did that demo on Merky and pointed out what seemed most obvious in it. Damn content was so long ago though. Much of what happened in the past could have changed. and pix happened to throw in some juicy info about Merky that seemed worthy of a re-evaluation.

I am not going to bother arguing about anything here since I was pretty much neutral on the subject, but what I can say from what I saw from the re-evaluation was a very well composed player if at all anything.

By the way, all this drama certainly is helping to re-energize the 1.16n community. Couldn't have asked for anything more. Very Happy

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:24 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

eXtacy
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p1x3L wrote (View Post):
You already owned yourself multiple times. You always were on the stupid side. :/

One member's view does not represent the entire view of the clan (which is where you fail yet again).

I want to expand on this. Just because a few members of o2o

were trying to accept Merky doesn't mean we all were. I, for one, was not, for obvious reasons. However, it is worth noting that not only were those who supported him testing him in every full measure to make sure he doesn't hack, which has thus far made a few people lean towards thinking he is clean, but we would never consider a hacker to be let into this clan. Obviously Merky was thrown out, but he would have been regardless if we found that he was hacking. I have to say, the evidence Sha compiled is pretty solid, but Merky's reputation (to most of us I hope) isn't worth bringing into the clan.

Also, that quote was like a year ago. We banned merky before but he has since been unbanned for whatever reason, and it really was just a jumping to conclusions. I acted rather impulsively on that topic, so disregard what I said. Instead, focus on the situation at hand, try to understand the situation through our perspective, and accept that we may have made a mistake even considering Merky, but he isn't on the roster now.

Oh, and spread the love... <33333333

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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as far as i know sbs never avoided scrims with u guys. despite ur team having obvious hackers. I think every clan has cheaters in it but o2o

s were so obvious and with people like u running around talking shit it made it that much more annoying. When u got guys like anthem and zypher on your team who are obviously cheating its hard to look the other way. Ill let u in on a secret the best railers in the world dont play 16. YOu dont know who the top players are cause they dont play 16 anymore and a lot of them never did because of guys like u. Playing 1 map over and over again with fast rail in noghost doesnt say much. The top railers were ctfers not dm7ers.
Out in the open shots arent the ones that are sus its around corners and the non stop fire doesnt show his reaction time in game. I did the sheep reaction test and got close to the same reaction as him(on the fly). .12-17. ive seen make shots me consistantly all game around corners before i could even see him when i ping 60 and he pings 140. If we have close to the same reflex it doesnt add up. There is no point in debating this. I could go to his house and show u a home recording of him hacking and ud try to talk his way out of it for him. GJ pixel ur sticking up for quakes biggest hacker. You realize how retarded this makes u look. Oh and in his xfire video the one that proves he doesnt hack ... from what i saw hes just noobin away against people that probably dont even have cgame. I said he could be autofiring cause wed never know. I can garauntee every legit person who knows quake will agree that merky is a cheater. o2o

s name will never be what it once was. Sad...what did merky show u some new cheat or something. I dont get it.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:03 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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oh and kyzer... stermy doesnt play insta. Im palying in an insta tournament right now with kgb clampOK _id jones dahang rapha. WORLD class quake con champions. couple of those guys are in EG who won quakecon last year for all weaps ctf. There basically the equivlant to stermy but in america.I out rail those guys regularly. REason- cause ive played a lot more insta then they have. Stermy doesnt practice insta like lots of people do therefor hes not the best at it. Im not 100 percent sure id beat him 1 vs 1 insta but id be a very close match im guessing. It may be hard for u to believe but i can hang with anyone in the world with a rail gun. Ive palyed the best players in america and they very best come from 32 osp.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:19 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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ok so i watched the dm17 demo.... are u serious bro?? merky was pure noob that game didnt make any good shots. MERKY DOESNT MISS IN DM7. That was a joke. Of course he wasnt autofiring in that. The dudes aim is a joke. He couldnt hit shit luckily he was palying against pure noobs is the only reason he won. So basically u said merky if u dont hack hold ur rail down the whole game. He says ok lol does it sucks shit and now hes clean. THese test ur putting him through are proving nothing. Im done proving u wrong its too easy the guy is a HUGE hacker get over it. Have fun scrimming pwp or whoever lol.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:20 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

Jesus
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weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I like how people continue to call Calie and Zypher hackers with no evidence. All the while, in your own clan, you have players that have admitted, dropped, or were proven to be hackers.

Also, not sure why people are talking about Merky. The topic will always cause debate because people will never be swayed by any evidence due to his history. Its an endless debate.

Nice post kev <3

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:28 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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i never accused cali ... not sure about her... but zypher im 100 percent positive the dudes a hack. Even foo said he was a cheat. Part of the reason he didnt move up to 32 with us during the gotflag tournies. There is no debate with real legit players about merky. Hes hack bottom line. other hackers clan mates noobs can defend him but we all know the truth. Having no proof is easy in 16. Ya i got hacking noobs in my clan too like potcha and god knows who else but i wouldnt stick up for a hacker or try to recruit the biggest one in q3. nice clan jesus.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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ice9 wrote:
i never accused cali ... not sure about her...

Ice gets it right. Wink

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:35 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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I guess you don't understand evidence. Your opinion doesn't qualify as evidence.

Funny thing is, one of your sbs players, strike, did move to .32 with you guys. And what happened? He DROPPED. You have more hackers than the two you mentioned in your clan. You let hAxeL play for weeks with you guys. Then, after I mentioned him on Monday, 15 minutes later, emo posted that he is removed. Coincidence?

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:45 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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All I have to say in my behalf, is prove it.
Do you think anything could stand up in court if people just gave what they thought with no real evidence? No.
I don't need to argue the fact that logical evidence always prevails over falsified illogical opinions. This goes to each of you who keep spewing my name in vain.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:57 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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p1x3L wrote (View Post):
And Jorel: There's no way you're going to able to make a valid point using a recreated shot because it would be YOUR view on how it happened and therefore would be biased.

And for the other half of you: You guys realize you're making an argument based on "because so and so can't do it, no one else can."

My point of view is really valid for many players in 16 community? Why? Simple, I've caught a lot of hackers with excelent reviews, I'm not a noob around accusing to every player better than me.

Second, I guess you guys are right and rest of the community is wrong, ok!

Third, He dropped in a server with sean and scene there, I'd like to see the logs if sean could bring it if he still has it .

Fourth, I Didn't know about that "test" and honestly with his reputation nobody wouldn't test a hack, People like meva could do it because he has earned his reputation and he did it in public, not hidden.

Talking about hydro, I don't think he hacks, When he aims you could see his crosshair aimming and flicks shoots, etc, Honestly I find it 100% unfair include him belong with merky, because there aren't demos about him or something like that, I think it can be disccussed.

Offtopic. Stop accusing to zypher and calie without a proof Evil or Very Mad

shan could we talk in xfire, I'm open mind, so I'd like to ask you few thing about your view point.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:19 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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JoReL wrote (View Post):

shan could we talk in xfire, I'm open mind, so I'd like to ask you few thing about your view point.

If you have a problem, go talk to Maverick about it.

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