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Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned
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Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, Archer, and Hater be banned from server?

Hell Yes!

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No I am with Era on this one

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Don't care..

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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:51 am Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

BirdMaN
eRa
eRa

Joined: Jun 02, 2006
Posts: 22
Location: Texas

Status: Offline

About e9 Nop I do believe you guys did forget that he caught himself on a Screenie with his hax on. All we did was bring back that he is still active and he has all this ips, he indeed admit it was him.

http://www.dev1ance.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1183&highlight=nop

http://era.noghost.net/html/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=563&highlight=nop

About railer he dropped in our server but he was gonna be banned for name stealing and trash talking, but when his ip came up we found this. People already knew he had haxed but i did not know that is why i posted it, thats why people were like we know he haxs we banned him already...but this just shows that he dropped in our server.

Railer1 wrote:
well i know i hacked and i know u know i hacked but ive given it all up and now is getting a new ip so see you in the servers...

http://era.noghost.net/html/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1424&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

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Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:38 am Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

rawwwr.
Nightmare!

Joined: Aug 03, 2006
Posts: 769
Location: Texas

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who cares about them :P

yall hacked!!!!

JAJAJAJAJA Laughing

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

tick
Novice
Novice

Joined: Jul 17, 2006
Posts: 64

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Class, this isn't the first time people have suspected you. You come out of nowhere and own up with +250 ping. You were suspicious in dev1, you even got banned for camping was it?. I quit quake a while back. But I would like to fight this case. You like to twist words around so much, and a hypocrit. You tell people to stop flaming, while you do the same. You say don't call people stupid, while you post the same. You messaged me on msn very quickly, trying to twist your lie again that maverick updates rather than edits the logs, and twice instead of once a day. Quake is dead, almost every clan has stopped scrimming, or at least not as much as they used to. It is best to retire quake once and for all. =]

A big point classic you are saying to give you an exact ip? How is that possible if you have a variable ip. That is like the cops trying to catch a running, lying, person. He is always somewhere else.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

BirdMaN
eRa
eRa

Joined: Jun 02, 2006
Posts: 22
Location: Texas

Status: Offline

tick wrote (View Post):
Class, this isn't the first time people have suspected you. You come out of nowhere and own up with +250 ping.

I can answer you on this when we first started quake 3 we had to use dial up for a good while, i think it was like in 2004 area when we first heard about dsl lol, this is when we started the faster connection, ask anyone who knew hater, then me then class, we used to have dial up for the longest. That is way we came back owning...

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

Jesus
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Joined: Apr 27, 2006
Posts: 3463
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The thing that puzzles me is that neither of you guys (from what I read) have said "I did not cheat, I have never cheated".

It has all been its not a close enough match, not exact, it wasn't us. Maybe I missed it somewhere, just don't have time to read each response on this topic.

I don't think you guys cheat now but wouldn't be surprised if one of you did in the past due to your highly competitive natures.

I know Mega did not fake the logs, he could give 2 shits about q3 - he visits this site maybe once a month.

If one of you guys did try out something or drop just say you did...give the other 2 a break...the first 3 matching seem like a match to me...

I will give Lebron the ultimate decision on RFL whether you guys should be allowed to play or not since it is his tournament.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

BirdMaN
eRa
eRa

Joined: Jun 02, 2006
Posts: 22
Location: Texas

Status: Offline

Jesus i know thru all the spam and long post you might have overseen that so here all say it again:

We never Cheated or hacked in all of our Quake 3 time playing.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

.Ice.
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Joined: Apr 27, 2006
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With all tha evidence and fingers pointed toward you 3 and tha fact about Archer n Elmo .. jus doesn't seem right with all tha twist of words and everything to convince ppl you didnt cheat .. like I said .. this has been hangin over our heads for awhile now it jus seems to suspicious to me for something not be going on .. as far as I'm concerned with variable IP's and what not .. you can change your IP multiple times so there can never be an identical match .. trust me .. I've spent longer on this game than all 3 of you .. I know what it takes to get your skillz up .. I know how long and hard I trained to be as good as I once was ..

It almost seems as if tha brothers were sittin back not gettin noticed and watching everyone else get into good clans and kick ass, but for them 3 .. nothing .. nobody cared to notice them .. until they thought they can start bringin a challenge to some "top knotch" players

If you ask me .. To good, To soon

-Med. Majic Mushrooms

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

BirdMaN
eRa
eRa

Joined: Jun 02, 2006
Posts: 22
Location: Texas

Status: Offline

Ice you really dont know us, i still remmeber when you asked to join the clan i was in rofl, with deathangel and blake ^ITK you joined us, then after i was in the same clan as u in >EO< then i went to -UE-, were i later was in, This is were we went different u went to o2o

and thought you were at the top of the world.

I created and lead .eRa| to get to were i am currently. Maybe this is why you are retired thinking you reached the top. And i continue playing knowing theres a new challenge everyday.
You really dont know the time and effort we all put into this gmae to get were we ARE, hater was always been at that level ask around which is better then decent, Me and class had to train and if you did not know i had to prove myself to get into UE i did that i remained loyal and I played in Desire 24-7 the same for class ask anybody lol you feel asleep class was playing. You woke up class was still playing, we have put in more effort and have gained our skills to have this so called leetness.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:53 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

N!ke
Hurt Me Plenty

Joined: Nov 19, 2006
Posts: 250
Location: Chi-Town

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The whole "skill" issue means absolutely nothing. There are just too many factors to include to use skill as any proof at all.

I still back up Key's statement. Still, in these forums my word means absolutely nothing as well. We just have wait and see what o2o

as a clan has to say about this...

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

Society
Hurt Me Plenty

Joined: Oct 31, 2006
Posts: 267

Status: Offline

ok, so im reading all this talk about skill.

Ice = amazing player yes, but look ..ice, with these pathetic mods..i watch players who have played modern games come back and play q3 amost as if they've had previous experience.. games are so complex now..q3 is just piont and shoot, and with practice it's easy to progress.. i personalyl know from leaving q3 for almost 1-2 years

Back then. I was also part of EO, and bird was a decent player. i even rember watching Bird in NR (rember that shit! haha)

Hater and just about most of TK were decent players, so all this u guys got good fast shit makes absolutley no sense, You all are great and have been decent players.

if u stop trying to be the best maybe shit like this wouldn't be brought up to argue. Because in the end ur not the best and theres always a better player.

I get annoyed all the time, because player sit and bascially attack each other, I get shit about MDK all the time and how Flash hacked.. it doesn't mean we all did,and the fact we hung with 90% of the q3 world even oNu, shows that 1 player doesn't make a clan, a player makes a teamate. So get the fuck off u ego's and be serious.

Being Hi-Ranked Clans that both people are, It's simply immaturity and dislike to one another fueling this stupid debate. GET OVER IT,

thats my 2cents, hate it or love it.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:12 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

tick
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BirdMaN wrote (View Post):

I can answer you on this when we first started quake 3 we had to use dial up for a good while, i think it was like in 2004 area when we first heard about dsl lol, this is when we started the faster connection, ask anyone who knew hater, then me then class, we used to have dial up for the longest. That is way we came back owning...

http://obligated2own.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=483&start=0

The thread date is in 2006, you still have +250 ping are you saying that 2 years passed after your 2004 "area" that you are using dsl? I smell liez. Classic, was not playing desire 24/7, how can he when he was banned?

---
this isn't the first time people are extremely suspicious of you class
http://www.dev1ance.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1777

How many times will it take?

-------------

By the way if you have nothing to hide, why not stand up for the truth and post on your forums instead of locking them?

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

rawwwr.
Nightmare!

Joined: Aug 03, 2006
Posts: 769
Location: Texas

Status: Offline

lmao eRa is so fucked if they cant play in the RFL.

hahahaha. Laughing

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:25 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

cLa$$ic
eRa
eRa

Joined: May 24, 2006
Posts: 69

Status: Offline

Are you serious t1ck?You still don't know the answer to that question in RED?There is no LOGS from TEXAS that yall can post a picture of nor theres ANY logs of TEXAS that we can prove that it wasn't us.So there is no proof,thats why i locked it;if you actually read instead of just trying to ignore the FACT that there isn't any proof.All those thread just have spam the same as this.Thats why i SAID if you have the logs that can prove it then remake the topic because thats the only way that you can prove if it was us or not.

@ rawwr about the RFL;yeah you too concerned about other things.

quote-smo8terWhen can we play the last match of the RFL?I've talked to lebron about the situation we had on our site and hes taken the time to READ ALL of the pages and comments by people and hes has came to a decision before any problems about if we should be allowed to play or not.He doesn't know if yall would say that we couldn't play or not because accusation but he took the responsibility as the host of the RFL and decided to make it clear before the scheduled date arose.

Marcel says:
well at the moment i dont see any reason you shouldnt be allowed to play the final

Jesus says:
Yeah,i just don't want any problems when we schedule it and o2o

be like you can't play because accusations.

Marcel says:
of course it can be that o2o

will say they dont wanna play you cause they think you cheated, well then you will win the final....but hopefully we just get it played

Marcel says:
i mean just people who are colored at the roster are ex-cheaters, wich clans can decide not to play against

Marcel says:
since you arent colored, you are allowed to play

Marcel says:
and since there is no 100% proof, you will not be colored

Jesus says:
ok i will try to set up a date with o2o

then.

Jesus says:
and thanks for being neutral with the situation at hand.

Jesus says:
pz

Marcel says:
pz

Let us know when is a good time for you;maybe this weekend.But not sure we will try to post ASAP so we all can have enough time to prepare.

quote=LeBronwell thats of course just a part of our convo. anyway, i really would like to see the final getting played soon. so plz try to get it doing, but dont rush it....we also want to see a good match with some nice lineups. Very Happy

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 6:34 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

BirdMaN
eRa
eRa

Joined: Jun 02, 2006
Posts: 22
Location: Texas

Status: Offline

Its obvious that you are rather slow my friend. We played with Dial up for a good while just like reaper did, but when they cut the service over here we could not get any kind of net except dial up so that is why we were using dial up again in the 2006 area Because our net was removed from the dsl we only could use dial up, thats when Comcast and Road runner. Thats when we got our low pings. Then comcast changed companies so we had to use dial up until they were able to get road runner out here again, thats when we got our 2nd low ping..

Is this clear or do i have to make it any clearer? Now stop worrying about or internet connections. Also if you would see on that topic not enough proof was there so he was just banned for shit talking.

Just like you were when you got banned under your name M@dcow for camping in portal. shit talking, and begin all around annoying how you are doing right now.

The reason our forums was locked, because here was not 100% proof on the thing and it would just continue like this one is doing. We let everyone give there thought about it until the shit talking began, like we said if you want to ban s from o2o

server then go ahead, but you have to wait until the RFL is over or it will be Our win by default, we want an actual match not your handout.

ggs

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

p1x3L
-2 in 16 champion

Joined: Sep 17, 2006
Posts: 1661

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RFL should be the last thing on your minds atm, it's just a game anyways. Era will probably win with/without you guys due to out inactivity anyways.

We don't have to wait until after the RFL match to ban you, and no, it won't be a default win if we do. It's like if I go and steal era's rcon, (which I have done many times Smile

, <3 those era's who forget to take out ref and rcon before sending their cfg away) and abuse it on era server. In theory, I would probably be perma-banned (I know mark was just for using the name era.classdick). Let's say I want to come back and play a war on your server, would I be allowed to?

I would have to live with my actions and face the consequences. It would be the discretion of era on whether or not I would be able to play. If I couldn't play would it mean that era forfeits? NO. Therefore, I would say it's o2o

's choice on whether or not to unban you for the match.

Anyways, in my point of view, you guys are considered cheaters on deviance.. Almost every player with an ounce of respect on those forums said you were cheating, i.e. meganoob, key, avenger, damien, ice, and hicap. Slack even said something like: those who refuse to believe this ban is for cheating, then consider it for shittalking. So basically it's up to a clan on whether or not you're cheaters. The most respected players in this community even said you were cheating, so I really don't know why you guys aren't already considered ex cheaters.

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