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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: The Missed Informed...and the Conspiracy on 9/11

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Watch Ice come back and tell us that Moussaoui was put up to say that stuff to the jury and take the fall, as were the 19 other terrorists aboard those aircraft. He's gonna say that Al Qaeda works cooperatively with the US Gov't and they were also set up to take the fall for it. BLAH BLAH BLAH

Oh I forgot to add that the Unabomber (responsible for the previous failed attack on WTC in the early 90's) was an American, but still a terrorist. He was not sent by the government either, and it's ridiculous to think he was. Do you think that Oklahoma City in 1994 was also a government ploy? We might as well say EVERY terrorist attack has been a government conspiracy.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject: Re: The Missed Informed...and the Conspiracy on 9/11

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Ice.   One thing you must realize is that others must realize it for themselves.   You can't press this stuff onto people.   For hundreds of years, the masses have been subjected to propaganda and conditioning.   They must be willing.   I was willing to listen to a fella talking about the NWO, Builderberg Corp, Freemasonry, etc. because I KNEW about WACO in 1993.   I KNEW of the injustices... but only by accident (same thing with studying WWII, as many come across certin corruptions on the part of the US govt in their involvement with the Nazis, as I did).

I wasn't looking to find an alternative opinion to that of the mass media, rather, I was looking into cults and mind control at the time.   I saw Waco:   Rules of Engagement and was completely shocked.   This is one conspiracy they had gotten away with, although we keep fighting.

As for 9/11.....

At the time, I was completely behind Bush 100%.   When I was coming home from school and saw the remaining smoke in the sky, my anger expressed itself in my tears.   No doubt that was the worst day ever for me.   I started listening to this fella tellin me to read David Icke, Jim Marrs, etc.   This I did because I had realized how corrupt the Clinton admin was.

I frequently post comments on youtube.   I had posted one on this video too under the name hserokdivad.

It is our questions that enable freedom.   Now they are telling us to shut up by giving us free speech zones, tracking our every move, eliminating our right to bare arms, DESTROYING our Constitution.   As I've written before, don't look at one side of the story.   Free yourself... your mind.   False flag attacks have occurred since the time of Ancient Rome.

I know this seems played out, but look at Nazi Germany (I've read Hitler's biography when I was 11, so everything is very simple to understand). The Reichstag was a "false flag" attack.   Adolf Hitler was dedicated to a cause, and would only gain this power by taking away the rights of the people.   Sure he was appointed Chancellor, but he needed more.   He took his power by burning the Reichstag and blaming it on the Communists.   This inflicted FEAR into the people of Germany.   Hitler of course promised to keep them safe, but only if they handed all of their rights over to him.   This they did.   The nazis were BRILLIANT at propaganda.   No one knew a thing, until Himmler dropped the ball.   The jews went in believeing the gas chambers were showers because their believed leader would never hurt them.   Why would they?

There is a fine line between Evil and Goodness.

One last thing I'd like to add.   I've always been a history buff.   I remember there was one time, around the age of 12 seeing a PBS show on Stalin.   They interviewed people who lived in Russia at the time of Stalin and were saying how great he was because he protected them from the Nazis (firstly, the nazis were blindly guided by their psychopathic leader... heading it into the Russian winter wearing shorts.   this is just a short note).   I knew nothing on stalin.   I told my older brother about this and he told me, "What are you talking about they loved stalin??   They FEARED stalin!   He would have wiretaps on your phone and secret police.   If you even spoke of stalin distastefully, you were arrested and most likely killed".   I vividly remember imagining what life would be like living in a world like that.   Now I see it slowing progressing.

America was once a great nation.   Nothing can be taken away all at once.   It all has to slowly progress in coalition with political conditioning.

I'm not debating.   I'm not telling any of yous what to think.   All I ask of everyone is too look at both ends of the story.   We are forced to see once side on the TV and newspapers.   I have acknowledged this.   They can take away our rights, but they can't take away our minds (at least until Orwell's thought-crime becomes unleashed).   Learn for yourselves.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: The Missed Informed...and the Conspiracy on 9/11

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ROFL...this aint no conspiracy theory...wtf? u see this shit commin out in movies everywhere now...wut was that 1 movie? that made fun of bush n all that? they say that was a joke but it sends ppl a sublimidal message...and the government would wanna kill 3000 of its own citizens if it was to get involved in the middle east to gain more oil feilds and bush family gains more money...and with more money to the bush family...means more moeny in our economy which means more money the government can spend on useless shit like gettin the "Patriot Act" approved..its rediculous...and i never said bush n bin laden were cuzins u moron...i said their families own oil companies 2gether...who do u think is profiting offa the middle eastern conflict? not the american ppl thats for dam sure...so then you ask yourself...y are we there if its not for the ppl? they say "saddam" had neucular and biological weapons of mass destruction that is "threatening" the US...pfffft i think saddam would b more worried in blowing up Israel rather than america...it even says the last battle will be faught on the plains of the holy land...WWIII the end

Look in books and you'll find it...hell surf the web and u'll find it...go ahead look up:

-Alex Jones

-Police State 2000 (Ironic how policestate has the same name? i doubt it...he is not 1 of the misinformed)

i'll put a list out later if any1 would like to hear about this

-Med. Majic Mushrooms

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: The Missed Informed...and the Conspiracy on 9/11

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No, Ice... it isn't a conspiracy theory. This is actually factual as we have massive amounts of evidence supporting our claims.

I'm heading over into manhattan for the huge 9/11 truth protest. I will take some pics for you ice Smile

"My lifetime pursuits as an internationalist might best be summarized by one rather extraordinary day in 1995. October 23 was a busy day at the Council on Foreign Relations. The fiftieth anniversary of the United Nations had drawn almost two hundred heads of government to New York, and many had asked to speak at the Council. but even then the day was unusual for the diversity of the speakers: Jiang Zemin, president of the People's Republic of China and heir apparent to Deng Xiaoping; Vaclav Havel of the Czech Republic, the former political prisoner who had eloquently guided his country through its 'Velvet Revolution'; Yasser Arafat, leader of the Palestine Liberation Organization, considered by many a terrorist and by others as the key to an enduring Middle East peace settlement; and, finally, Fidel Castro, charismatic leader of the Cuban revolution and implacable opponent of the United States for almost forty years.

"The ironies abounded. With the exception of Havel, these men had vowed to fight to the death against imperialist America. Now, with the end of the Cold War, they flocked to the center of world capitalism, eager to meet and close deals with American bankers and corporate executives, or at least to be seen with them -- even Castro. El Presidente wanted especially to meet me, but a convenient time had not yet been found. Failing this, at the formal reception hosted by Secretary-General Boutros-Ghali at the U.N., Castro spotted me, charged across the delegates lounge, and grabbed my hand, shaking it warmly. I was chagrined, sensing the photo frenzy about to erupt. But I smiled as the paparazzi snapped away. Predictably, the photo of 'the Capitalist and the Communist' appeared on the front page of newspapers from Ankara to Zanzibar; and just as predictably I was criticized for appearing with a man considered one of our nation's bitterest enemies.....

"For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure--one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.

"The anti-Rockefeller focus of these otherwise incompatible political positions owes much to Populism. 'Populists' believe in conspiracies, and one of the most enduring is that a secret group of international bankers and capitalists, and their minions, control the world's economy. Because of my name and prominence as the head of the Chase for many years, I have earned the distinction of 'conspirator in chief' from some of these people.

"Populists and isolationists ignore the tangible benefits that have resulted from our active international role during the past half-century. Not only was the very real threat posed by Soviet Communism overcome, but there have been fundamental improvements in societies around the world, particularly in the United States, as a result of global trade, improved communications, and the heightened interaction of people from different cultures. Populists rarely mention these positive consequences, nor can they cogently explain how they would have sustained American economic growth and the expansion of our political power without them."
-David Rockefeller, Memoirs

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:35 pm Post subject: Re: The Missed Informed...and the Conspiracy on 9/11

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BRAVO! JOSIE! BRAVO!!! excellent and yes pleez Smile

i would love to see how the protest went

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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: The Missed Informed...and the Conspiracy on 9/11

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Lmao, I was being sarcastic about them being cousins LOL. But, I still refuse that the government was in on the whole thing because it is complete insanity!!!!!! Shock

I am baffled on how ANYBODY can believe this...

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: Re: The Missed Informed...and the Conspiracy on 9/11

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I think your pathetic Ice. I don't mean that offensively I mean that subjectively. Here you are trying to push your ideas on the people as you say the government does. Here you are saying we're all brainwashed when you're ignorantly listening to these videos. Here you are..

Why don't you provide all these movies you've seen, or all these words you've heard? Why don't you provide the proof to back up the statement? Your just the typical stoner that thinks the entire government is corrupt and we're all brainwashed. You've also presented HIGHLY unlikely, and HIGHLY conspiricial theories. And instead of providing proof for it you just say we're all brainwashed by propaganda and whatnot. Wait a minute, aren't those movies propaganda, too? Only explaining one side of the story trying to get it's followers to believe their claims rather then telling the whole story in a 24 hour movie that explains BOTH sides of it as well as interjects theories and statements all while providing a shitload of proof from credible sources?

I myself am Impartial. I wouldn't really give to 2 shits at this point in my life if the government did it or not. The fact is whatever happened, happened. I may be but a pawn and I may be nothing, but I figure I'm just going to live the rest of my life the best I can and not worry myself over everyone else's problems. It's unhealthy and it's absurd. I'd rather have a good life then be wracking my brain whether the government did it or terrorists did. I'd rather go outside and play baseball then worry about the next terror attack, or the next government coverup. I'd rather play baseball instead of watching these one-sided videos. I'd rather NOT have an opinion to avoid these ackward situations. And I don't think every kid should feel the way I do or there wouldn't be anyone to fight for anyones rights or anyone to make asses out of themselves. It's just the complexities of Society and so overall, I wish you Luck on your quest to prove your theories and truths and hope you do not let it consume you.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: The Missed Informed...and the Conspiracy on 9/11

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med, you walked right into this one. You go about things so wrongly.

This is to everyone on here, including ice. Criticism of each other won't get anyone anywhere. We are all in this together. This is the united states, not the divided states.

Professor of Physics Steven E. Jones has examined the pieces of the WTC and found evidence of thermite and thermate. This is a great page that goes in depth..... take some time to read it and go to the links http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html

This is also a very good website with research evidence.
http://911research.wtc7.net

We've done our reasearch, now you do yours.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: The Missed Informed...and the Conspiracy on 9/11

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i won't even touch this topic..

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: The Missed Informed...and the Conspiracy on 9/11

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You're a very very very smart man Tog Shock

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 8:08 pm Post subject: Re: The Missed Informed...and the Conspiracy on 9/11

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DamieN wrote (View Post):
I think your pathetic Ice. I don't mean that offensively I mean that subjectively. Here you are trying to push your ideas on the people as you say the government does. Here you are saying we're all brainwashed when you're ignorantly listening to these videos. Here you are..

Why don't you provide all these movies you've seen, or all these words you've heard? Why don't you provide the proof to back up the statement? Your just the typical stoner that thinks the entire government is corrupt and we're all brainwashed. You've also presented HIGHLY unlikely, and HIGHLY conspiricial theories. And instead of providing proof for it you just say we're all brainwashed by propaganda and whatnot. Wait a minute, aren't those movies propaganda, too? Only explaining one side of the story trying to get it's followers to believe their claims rather then telling the whole story in a 24 hour movie that explains BOTH sides of it as well as interjects theories and statements all while providing a shitload of proof from credible sources?

I myself am Impartial. I wouldn't really give to 2 shits at this point in my life if the government did it or not. The fact is whatever happened, happened. I may be but a pawn and I may be nothing, but I figure I'm just going to live the rest of my life the best I can and not worry myself over everyone else's problems. It's unhealthy and it's absurd. I'd rather have a good life then be wracking my brain whether the government did it or terrorists did. I'd rather go outside and play baseball then worry about the next terror attack, or the next government coverup. I'd rather play baseball instead of watching these one-sided videos. I'd rather NOT have an opinion to avoid these ackward situations. And I don't think every kid should feel the way I do or there wouldn't be anyone to fight for anyones rights or anyone to make asses out of themselves. It's just the complexities of Society and so overall, I wish you Luck on your quest to prove your theories and truths and hope you do not let it consume you.

an your entiled to your opinion...but jus remember "Opinions are like assholes, everybodies got one" ...i am not brainwashing u ppl #Rofl

you can take the info or not...i can careless if you dont believe me becuz im not wracking my brain thinking the government did it or not...i know they did it...trust me...my whole life i've been exposed to this material and yet have found the missing peices of the puzzle that fit...and they are all wut they said to be

I am not even trying to brainwash or push propaganda onto any of you..i have a right to my opinion as well...i posted this for the ppl that want the eyes to see and the ears to hear...some ppl are jus to stubborn to think "How could our loving country do something like that?" Rolling Eyes

im jus trying to wake up the ppl who do not want to be blinded by lies...if you want the truth...its out there...its jus up 2 u if u wanna take that journey

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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: The Missed Informed...and the Conspiracy on 9/11

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did anyone even watch this movie? Smile

guess not http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726&q=loose+change

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:50 pm Post subject: Re: The Missed Informed...and the Conspiracy on 9/11

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Wow.. alot of information this guy pulled up. Did a very nice job. It seems to me like there was more to this than meets the eye.. Some of the stuff though mentioned at the beginning of the clip didn't seem to make much sense like it was just a bunch of extra details thrown in that had nothing much to even do to with 911.

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 12:27 am Post subject: Re: The Missed Informed...and the Conspiracy on 9/11

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killa|poo wrote (View Post):
did anyone even watch this movie? Smile

guess not http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726&q=loose+change

I actually have never seen Loose Change.

This was actually the film that opened my eyes in 2003: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1358726890127819985&q=9%2F11+road+to+tyranny

Alex simply takes news sources and releases them.

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 7:36 am Post subject: Re: The Missed Informed...and the Conspiracy on 9/11

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You guys all have waay too much time on your hands Laughing

. Your all crazy!! CRAZY I TELL YAH!!!

Quote:
im not wracking my brain thinking the government did it or not...i know they did it...trust me...my whole life i've been exposed to this material and yet have found the missing peices of the puzzle that fit...and they are all wut they said to be

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!

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