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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: looky at my band :P

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Show me where feedback is mentioned in your original statement.

"I would practice more before showing stuff off" does not, not, mean what you say it does.

eXtacy wrote:
I'm telling him not to expect feedback after one day of practice.

That statement implies that one day of practice is not sufficient for somebody to give feedback.   Ridiculous statement. People can give feedback after one hour of practice if they want.

Your original statement implies that his work is sub par and that he should wait until it is better to ask people's opinions.   Except instead of saying "it's not good, practice more" you decided to 1) sugar-coat it, 2) be sarcastic (failed, was called out and attempted to back peddle into a favorable position) or 3) you genuinely can't decipher the conceptual difference between those two statements.

By the way, "I don't see anywhere where you say not to expect feedback after so little practice" is not an invitation for you to make a smart ass suggestion as to why I don't see feedback mentioned.   It is a simple (factual) statement but if you have a valid argument post it but don't attempt to be smart and witty.

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: looky at my band :P

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erm...so about the music..

Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: looky at my band :P

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--Riddick-- wrote (View Post):
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Honestly, I think you are taking my posts out of context. I didn't mean that other people shouldn't give feedback because he has only been making music for only one hour, but I was trying to tell him he shouldn't expect to get feedback because it wouldn't be what he wants to hear. I guess you could say I was sugarcoating my statement, but the point of my original post is pretty obvious. I didn't want to say "you suck" because I like to maintain a respect for people and what they make. So instead, I told him not to expect feedback since he only has three songs in one day. He should work on making more material and practicing before asking what people think about his music.

Also, I wasn't attempting to be sarcastic until my "Read?" post. I am also implying that "showing stuff off" means "expecting feedback".

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:00 am Post subject: Re: looky at my band :P

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eXtacty wrote:
Honestly, I think you are taking my posts out of context.

So you were being dishonest before?

eXtacy wrote:
I didn't mean that other people shouldn't give feedback because he has only been making music for only one hour,...

I don't recall him saying he was only making music for one hour. Maybe thats how long you think it would take somebody to produce that quality level of music?

eXtacy wrote:
...but I was trying to tell him he shouldn't expect to get feedback because it wouldn't be what he wants to hear.

Here is where things fall apart for your argument. Perhaps some people actually think his music is good and give positive feedback. You assume that the feedback will be negative just like you assume he wouldn't want to hear that feedback. Just because you may not handle negative feedback well, that does not mean others don't.

eXtacy wrote:
I didn't want to say "you suck" because I like to maintain a respect for people and what they make.

You don't have to say "you suck" because that is extremely general and not helpful at all, which is why you say you're doing this--to help. Perhaps "your music sucks" is more fitting. Rough maybe, but that doesn't mean it's wrong. In any case, Tool seems like a guy who can handle it.

eXtacy wrote:
So instead, I told him not to expect feedback since he only has three songs in one day. He should work on making more material and practicing before asking what people think about his music.

Well, I think you should first learn the correct times to use "so" at the beginning of a sentence (You can probably find grammatical errors in my posts but I see this error often and think people should know otherwise.) Also, why would he not want feedback on his early material? Receiving feedback is the best way to improve in an art and receiving it early is extremely beneficial whether it is positive or negative. Plus, he was obviously expecting feedback since he concluded his first post with "Tell me what you think." Maybe "not to expect positive feedback" is more suitable in this case but then you are still making serious assumptions.

I'm posting this as I'm about to go to sleep but want to finish by telling Tool that no matter how little eXtacy thinks of his work, I for one support him wholeheartedly in his endeavors!

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:10 am Post subject: Re: looky at my band :P

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--Riddick-- wrote (View Post):

eXtacty wrote:
Honestly, I think you are taking my posts out of context.

So you were being dishonest before?

eXtacy wrote:
I didn't mean that other people shouldn't give feedback because he has only been making music for only one hour,...

I don't recall him saying he was only making music for one hour. Maybe thats how long you think it would take somebody to produce that quality level of music?

eXtacy wrote:
...but I was trying to tell him he shouldn't expect to get feedback because it wouldn't be what he wants to hear.

eXtacy wrote:
I didn't want to say "you suck" because I like to maintain a respect for people and what they make.

Lol, calm down.. sheesh. Does this matter? I told tool I liked his music on xfire. I even asked him to make music for one of my maps. I was trying to be nice. There is no point in trying to dissect my posts.

It doesn't matter who is right or who is wrong. Instead of trying to prove that you're right you should just accept what I meant by the statement. There doesn't need to be a 500 word post criticizing everything I type. I'm here to play a game, not to partake in these petty arguments.

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:29 am Post subject: Re: looky at my band :P

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Take this to xfire noobs.

gl tool!

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