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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:02 pm Post subject: A new System against hacker Reply with quote
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 Final  Version
 
 I  would  like  to  introduce  this  community  to  a  new  system  in  order  to  give  accused  people  of  hacking  a  fair  chance,  and  make  this  community  a  hacker  free  zone.  First,  many  people  would  be  asking  what  are  the  different  this  new  system  have  compare  to  most  of  the  system  we  have  (era,  united  ref,  pwp)
 
 Weakness  of  old  system

 
 ERA:  
 -Most  time  the  final  words,  were  given  by  a  era  member
 -Most  people  would  flame  topic,  and  get  it  locks
 
 PWP:
 -Most  of  thing  are  in  member  section  so  no  one  can  see
 -Not  enough  opinion  given  from  the  community,  but  mainly  from  pwp
 
 United  Ref:  
 -  Too  many  random  people  (  that  wish  to  keep  their  identities  hidden)
 -  Lack  of  organization
 -  Leader  of  the  organization  are  not  well  known  enough  and  respected  in  community
 
 The  New  System:
 
 -  Every  clans  that  has  been  on  quake  for  a  long  period  (3-4years)  of  times  (we  would  like  American  clans  only  for  the  purpose  of  a  fair  trial  and  because  we  would  have  a  better  knowledge  of  every  players)  or  it  is  actually  well  respected  enough  will  have  one  leader  and  their  co-leader  as  a  JUDGE  in  this  system.  (If  clan  that  have  more  than  one  leader,  they  can  have  2  leaders  instead  of  one  leader  and  one  Co-leader)
 
 -  sBs  won't  be  the  supreme  judge,  every  invited  judge,  will  cast  their  vote  in  order  to  elect  ONE  person  that  will  be  moderating  the  SUSPECTED  CHEATER/CAUGHT  CHEATER  section.
 
 -  ALL  DECISION  MADE  (Caught  Cheater,  Illegal  Command  usage,  Dropped  players)  would  have  to  be  unanimous  to  every  clans  that  accept  the  invitation  (  in  order  words,  if  player  A  is  a  caught  cheater,  ALL  SERVER  OF  EVERY  CLAN  have  to  ban  him)  
 
 -  There  will  be  2  sections  for  suspected  cheater,  one  open  for  public  and  the  person  accused,  and  one  that  will  be  PUBLIC,  but  will  always  be  lock  and  only  JUDGE  can  post  comment  on  it,  and  would  always  have  the  demo/ss  as  the  first  post  of  topic.  And  finally  when  a  verdict  is  reach,  the  name  will  go  on  list  of  hacker  that  will  be  like  a  search  engine  (moderate  by  Dan  aka  insomia),  and  a  caught  cheater  section  where  no  public  can  post  on  it.
 
 Modification  from  old  system?

 
 -  No  flame,  or  spam  will  be  on  the  main  topic,  people  would  be  able  to  follow  judge  decision  without  having  to  go  through  all  the  spam
 
 -  No  one  nor  clan  is  superior  to  an  another,  and  the  SUPREME  JUDGE  has  been  selected  by  its  colleague
 
 -  sBs  IS  ONLY  HOSTING  AND  PART  OF  IT,  HAVE  NO  CONTROL  NOR  CAN  MANIPULATE  DECISION
 
 -  Everything  is  public,  so  everyone  can  see  what  judge  have  decided,  and  there  wont  be  any  judge  abusing  of  his  power,  to  speak  for  the  rest
 
 -  Since  everything  is  public,  the  verdict  for  one,  have  to  be  the  same  for  any  person  who  will  do  or  repeat  the  same  act  (get  he  favoritism  out  of  the  way)
 
 -  If  one  clan  [died/withdraw]  judges  can  then  decide  if  yes  or  not  to  invite  another  clan  to  take  their  spot
 
 -  There  will  be  exactly  21  Judges  (one  would  be  the  supreme)  but  this  number  seem  to  be  a  lot,  however,  with  people  inactive,  people  rather  not  commenting  on  a  matter,  this  number  can  be  very  appropriate  for  most  case.
 
 The  main  idea  and  why  we  proposing  it
 
 -This  community  is  splitting  apart  each  days,  and  hackers  just  hate  refs,  and  refs  hate  hackers,  people  are  mistreated  for  the  act  that  someone  else  have  done  in  the  past  but  got  a  more  favorable  verdict.  What  this  would  do  is,  bring  us  all  closer,  by  trusting  not  only  our  leader/co-leader  but  others  clans  as  well,  and  have  a  better  feeling  that  everyone  in  our  clan  or  in  others  clans  are  all  treated  equally.  
 
 -  We  want  to  have  everyone  from  THE  WHOLE  1.16N  Community  to  post,  like  that  not  only  we  can  clean  quake  of  its  hackers  (hopefully),  and  ultimately,  if  people  that  are  bored  of  hackers  in  other  games  such  as  Counter-strike  ,  unreal  tournament  3  (which  have  instagib  just  like  us)  and  they  heard  about  the  reputation  of  our  clean  server,  we  might  be  able  to  keep  this  community  alive  for  a  few  more  years,  or  even  revive  it.  
 
 -  Lastly,  since  we  know  that  there  is  not  really  a  police  in  CTF,  we  would  also  be  inviting  CTF  clans  to  take  part  on  this,  and  they  will  bring  a  better  and  accurate  opinion  on  CTF  demos  and  most  of  the  people  on  CTF  have  a  very  good  TDM  background.  We  would  also  invite  3  special  persons  that  have  been  helping  this  community  bloom  up  to  this  day  so  here  a  list  of  Clans  and  people  invited  to  join  this  project
 
 
 INVITATION

 
 TDM  CLAN  
 [i]
 g0d
 ue
 o2o
 pwp
 sBs  (  we  would  like  everyone  else  have  2  person  from  our  clan  )
 
 CTF  CLAN
 foo'
 wm
 [em]
 
 Special  person
 Maverick
 HellSpawn
 Nex
 
 
 Some  clans  might  feel  left  out,  but  realistically  we  can't  have  every  clans  on  1.16  to  be  part  of  this  because  it  will  be  too  much.  We  also  pick  clan  depending  on  the  activities,  involvement  with  the  community,  and  so  on.   
 
 
 This  is  something,  I  work  on,  and  I  propose  it  to  my  clan  to  host  it,  and  then  ASKING  EVERYONE  IN  THIS  COMMUNITY  if  they  will  accept  the  idea  that  Im  proposing,  because  I  want  everyone  to  be  treated  equally,  and  I  want  us  all  to  have  fun  playing  this  game  until  the  last  day.  Lastly,  Im  not  even  participating  on  this....  Im  just  proposing  it,  so  whoever  think  that  im  doing  it  for  some  benefit,  sadly  you  are  wrong.  So  now  the  final  word  are  up  to  you  community  1.16n  of  Quake  III
 
 Any  question  comment  feel  free  to  ask  me  on  xfire  :  Telekinifox
 Please  keep  this  topic  spamless  thanks  you
 
 We  already  have  thing  sort  out,  and  here  is  what  it  would  look  after  you  get  caught  (please  for  the  love  of  god  dont  go  in  there)
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: A new System against hacker Reply with quote
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 No  thanks,  for  the  last  10+  years  of  q1,  q2  and  q3  I  have  thought  for  myself  period  I  don't  need  anyone  or  specific  groups  of  people  to  tell  me  how  to  find  and  or  point  out  hackers.  I  could  say  more  but  for  sake  of  fighting  with  people  who  have  absolutely  no  idea  on  this  topic  I  will  spare  you
 
 So  the  answer  is  no,  o2o  will  not  be  apart  of  this  so  remove  our  names,  affiliations  etc.
 
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