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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:12 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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Ok I'll guess I will take time out of my day to make a post on here since I get non stop xfire and msn messages.

I'v been around long enough to know how any of these topics go and to realize what the outcome of them will be 80% of the time. I don't feel the need to come here and debate this topic with 20 people or more and answer everyone's questions one by one, as it will not matter what is said from me, clan members or people who know I am not cheating. This topic is posted on o2o

which from what I have seen in many previous experiences a very one sided opinionated clan. I'm not saying what is said here doesn't mean anything however I think that it would of been in a smarter interest to get the opinions of refs and admins and then post.

I Have spoken with leg, and have spoken with some refs in immense detail of the demos and the shots recorded and my take on the demos. In this dieing community I think it is important to have the opinions and conclusions of those who have reffed for many years with experience.

So once again my absence of posts to this topic has been because I am not going to flame back an forth, as it will eventually turn into flaming with a topic locked and o2o

's conclusion on the topic and how they would like it handled. I have an xfire, and anything can be debated or questioned there.

Bye.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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^^^

Thats why this was not just posted on o2o

but on era and pwp.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:32 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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What you do not know is that this topic was posted for a couple days where community refs were able to view and make comments on the demos. It was not public.

We will take all opinions into consideration, which is why this is in a public forum. We will not take consideration to posts that say "I played him, he owned me, he must be hacking" or "I am in his clan, he is clean."

It is odd that your main defenses are:

Get admins and refs to review: CHECK
o2o

is one sided:

Odd that you didn't say "I don't hack". Thank you for posting.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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Hydro's take:

.iv'hydro: if theres 3 shots
.iv'hydro: exactly on the enemy
.iv'hydro: through the wall
.iv'hydro: i would be skeptical after 1st shot
.iv'hydro: the chancees of accidently shooting
.iv'hydro: exactly at the enemy through a wall
.iv'hydro: are near impossible
.iv'hydro: lol
.iv'hydro: or very rare
p1x3L: yeah
p1x3L: lol
.iv'hydro: plus a good player who knows how to play
.iv'hydro: wouldnt accidently
.iv'hydro: shoot
.iv'hydro: unless hes trying to railjump
.iv'hydro: lol
p1x3L: lol
p1x3L: even if he's railjumping
p1x3L: thats not accidentally shooting lol
.iv'hydro: he wouldnt railjump
.iv'hydro: backwards
.iv'hydro: when hes going from YH to quad
.iv'hydro: lol
.iv'hydro: so that throws that out
p1x3L: lol yup
.iv'hydro: andi highly doubt it accidently pressed the mouse button
.iv'hydro: 'lol
p1x3L: three times lol
.iv'hydro: a skilled player who knows how to shoot
.iv'hydro: doesnt do that
.iv'hydro: lol
.iv'hydro: especially 3x
p1x3L: goshhhh
.iv'hydro: through a wall exactly at the enemy
p1x3L: post this on the forums nub :P
.iv'hydro: dont feel like it
.iv'hydro: just ss this
.iv'hydro: and post it lol
p1x3L: lol

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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Thats just true, there can be nothing accidentily in those 3 shots. Luck and stuff excist, but not in this way.

I used wallhack myself few years ago as u know, so for me this is pure wallhack, nothing else.

To bad potcha, but youre not getting away with this 1.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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potcha wrote (View Post):

I am not cheating.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:21 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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ggs potcha Wink

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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I agree with potcha, I tend to refrain from posting on these forums for the same reasons.Sad that its a few members doing it though. And we don't care what hydro has to say.if its really important let him come post it. But I would like to hear what more people got to say..as for now if he plays i suggest demoing if you feel its necessary.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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cLa$$ic wrote (View Post):
I agree with potcha, I tend to refrain from posting on these forums for the same reasons.Sad that its a few members doing it though. And we don't care what hydro has to say.if its really important let him come post it. But I would like to hear what more people got to say..as for now if he plays i suggest demoing if you feel its necessary.

Why has my username been deleted two times on inhuman? Including other members as well? (sorry to post this here but since I cannot post on inhuman)

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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Delete? Idk.Banned couple before, but I don't know whats going on.Unless you use a unknown username then its deleted, I believe.Try re-registering and I'll have bird check on it.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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p1x3L wrote (View Post):
Let's say for every 1000 times you go into yh with an enemy in quad you shoot the stairs once (that's lightly putting it).

Let's also say that only 1 out of 10 times of those yh shots is your crosshair directly on an enemy.

Using simple algebra, you can calculate that the yh stair shot with an enemy directly in your crosshair would occur 1 time every 10000 times you're in yh with an enemy in quad.

Now, let's calculate the chances of that happening 3 times.

1/10000 x 1/10000 x 1/10000 = 1/1,000,000,000,000

One out of one trillion times.

Coincidence?

stressed out for my exams. So I might be wrong.

1/10 = 0.1 yh shots is the crosshair directly on an enemy
and 0.1 x 1000 = 100 [is how much in 1000 times]

therefore,

100/1000 = 1/10 is the probability of having the crosshair directly in 1 out of 10 from 1000 times.

no matter what, the percentage is already given so how many times you did it will not affect the probability.

and about the 3 shots, I don't know how you calculated that (not enough information...), but ASSUMING the shots 3 shots are calculated using (1/10)(1/10)(1/10) then it would be equal to 1/1000. Although it's a very small amount but not as small as 1/trillion.

Your second theory was pretty much stupid too.

If I start any flame from here on and/or I'm wrong, I will GLADLY apologize. I don't mind being stupid.
and I love what you pulled to Classic. You should work for the government ! and can you guys take out sBs beside Potcha because it makes sBs looks stupid.xD

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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Your english obviously led to a flaw in your understanding of what I typed.

"and 0.1 x 1000 = 100 [is how much in 1000 times]"

He will only shoot the stairs in yh once in 1000 times.

1/1000 x 1/10

Even though my second theory was added only because I wanted to do more math, under those assumptions, it's still highly valid.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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^ Its 1/10 out of those 1/1000 shots which is: 0.1 x 0.0001 = 1/10000
Uh, to post something on topic, which community refs have actually viewed the demos?

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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I believe Cat posted this in ue's ref section for me, although I don't think there has been a response from their end yet.

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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dun7ez wrote (View Post):

potcha wrote (View Post):

I am not cheating.

potcha wrote (View Post):
clan members or people who know I am not cheating.

he never said "I AM NOT CHEATING" he simply just said that other people know hes not cheating =] and maybe what these people think they "know" isnt the truth.

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