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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:20 pm Post subject: >sBs<Potcha.

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Times:
Demo 1:
1:02: shudder at dead teammate
1:47: aimed through wall
2:29: aimed through wall
3:04: wtf
4:21-4:23: fishy
4:42:
5:12
5:20
5:28: just aims at the guy through the wall
5:43: aimed through wall and shot
6:12: shoots dead body (knew it was there in advance)
7:20: almost looked down at enemy in lava
8:12: hmmmm
9:39: wtf
10:5x: something funky
12:50: aimed at dead body
17:07

Demo 2:

1:54: shot dead body straight through twice
4:02: slow down to timescale .05
7:09: slow down to timescale .05
9:15: shot dead body

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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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lol, i find the shots he make's after coming from a break and not playing quake3 for a while really suspicious. I've watched both demo's and in my opinion, he is hacking. I know alot people can have some weird shots and such, even i have times where i find it hard to believe i've made a suspicious shot, but in the demo its obvious that hes hacking. therefor i say:

-1.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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Having not watched the demo and speaking solely on past experiences...about time!

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:21 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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watched both demos and i def think hes hacking

those scrims he was playing vs us and during the game i remember specing him wen dead nd it was just obvious then so yeah def -1

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:03 am Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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-1. I was playing against him and he was suspicious.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:20 am Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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158 views and 4 posts.

I guess some people never change :/.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:11 am Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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so obvious lmao.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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marlboro wrote (View Post):
-1. I was playing against him and he was suspicious.

Those close to being the dumbest thing I have ever read.

The first demo was sus, but not obvious like some people stated, the second demo was the same, apart from those 2 YH shots.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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sketch wrote (View Post):
Those close to being the dumbest thing I have ever read.

Lol.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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Lol Sketch.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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I watched the demo's and I don't believe hes hacking.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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What some don't seem to realize is that this sort of misfire is very rare in the case it was presented.

To prove a point, since when does anyone shoot the stairs in the yh hallway like that? That is just dumb and there is no reason for it. It is technically illogical since the stairs don't got nothing against you anyhow.. xD

Now having this happen once might make me shrug, but his crosshair happened to be dead on someone when he "misfired". I figured perhaps it could have been just coincidence, but the second vid shows him making the same mistake twice, and before this happens, he had made a quick adjustment towards the enemy's position when firing..

Also take into consideration that everything is going super slow, and this would actually be happening at a much faster rate. Now how does that add up for ya? Smile

P.S. If you are only taking into consideration from the vids, watch the demos. You will learn that those vids are only the tip of the iceberg. Way too many wallshots.. It kind of makes me laugh.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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There's absolutely no excuse for him to be shooting at walls and dead bodies like that.

It seems to be a combination of autofire/wallhack toggling, although I've only viewed the demos once.

I'll view them again twice more to make sure.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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Watched 1st demo again.

17:03: Yellow hall shot happens again right as his crosshair crosses prodigy.

Definite toggling of autofire and wallhack.

How many times total does he shoot the stairs in yellow hall total?: 3.

How many of those times did his crosshair cross an enemy first?: All of them.

What's his excuse for shooting them?: Still waiting on it.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: >sBs<Potcha.

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There are an abormal amount of wall shots in the demos, and those shots tend to have an enemy (frozen or alive) behind them. Theres also that point in the second demo where he shoots a body twice, not even trying to move it. Finally theres the shot at 3:04 in the first demo that looks extremely hard to pull off.

Those yellowhall to quad shots are definately red flags. The first time you would think its an accident and he intended to prefire; however, most of us know you must stand still to make that jumping prefire shot from yellow hall to quad, if you do move forward you will hit the stairs. But this wasnt the only time he did it he did it 2 more times, and I don't think he ever landed a yellowhall to quad preshot in either of the demos. This just seems too unlikely to happen within a span of 2 demos. Once is okay.... 2 is fishy... 3 seems like an autofire is going off.

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