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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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able to prefire: 3 tries 20 clicks each

cant prefire: 3 tries

am i hacking these things cause i get below 180 ms? lol

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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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I fail to see the correlation between having good reactions, and shooting 30-40+ acc with over 100 rail-jumps in a single game.

I haven't played instagib on a 30 ping, so I can't really say he's hacking, but a basic reaction test has nothing to do with playing for 5 minutes strait without missing a single moving target.

Hydro on the other hand, is a sexy beast.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:10 pm Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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PLEASE READ THIS POST CAREFULLY, TRY TO UNDERSTAND IT (MY ENGLISH ISN'T GOOD LOL)

"I remember still the first topic about merky, I was playing a scrim , .eRa vs a random club..."

So before end that history, I'm going to add something,eRa played like 2 weeks or 1 month ago a scrim vs hs (before the game vs the randomclub) , I played for .eRa, I got better score than merky, merky got a normal score and I followed him many times, He didn't use railjump like he started doing after "his weird skill", he didn't do either weird shoots or impresive shoots, He played normaly.

So after one month (coming back at the history) there was that guy using railjumps almost the 100%, killing you without miss one shoot (and that guy didn't know even HOW TO STRAFE IN A SIMPLE MAP Q3DM7, He could know defrag but I mean, How he didn't know to strafe in q3dm7?) in open areas and having in our point of view impossible corner shoots without even see something of aim.

Quake 3 isn't only about reflexs, It has to be about aim and strafe skills too.

So I called to o2o

.kikyo to record him, He agree and many people agree that he was indeed autofiring, kikyo posted the demo.

So... I Mean, Could you guys in one month improve their skill from an acc like 30 or lets say 50 to 80-95? There is a demo about him (HS VS UE) He missed around 3 times or 4 in the first 18 minutes.

And I know maybe you guys didn't see a demo with maybe the most obvious shoot about him autofiring, and casually HYDRO posted it: It was in q3ctf1, Merky was in LOW BASE camping at the corner, some player in vT BOOSTED TO HIS MATE to across the corner (When someone is boosted his speed increase x3 or more), Merky was aiming at the edge of the door and guess what, He fragged him without move his aim, without even show some kind of reaction and that isn't normal and just to add more "fire" he didn't know how to strafe in q3ctf1. (I can simulate that shoot with anyone of you guys and I think I have the demo)
Why didn't i post about it? He was labeled like a hacker in that time, o2o

labeled him like a hacker too and after that he got banned in euroservers (clanbase) too. It wasn't neccesary to bring more obvious information.

So he came after one month changing his style in a rjwhore completly. I'm not talking about reflexts shoots, Let's forget the reflexs shoots; In open Areas you need have ONLY AIM (good mouse, pc, mousepad, cfg,etc). If you guys check the demos, you guys would see that he didn't even has aim or some kinds of flicks shoots.

If he's that good, Why isn't he playing in tournaments? Why he sucks in quakelive? Why doesn't he has a q3 career trajectory ( Like joint, meva, promega,halo etc) with theses kind of shoots? So Do we have to say that he just came one day with good reflexs, having an aim similar like MOST OF THE CAUGHT AUTOFIRERS and accept it? Why all his near friends like cash, sean, scene, pronstar, acid have been accused of hackers? cash, sean, scene was proved in demos. Pronstar was banned and accused of autofiring but honestly I didn't see a demo about him, only one shoot similar to Axel's shoot when Axel got caught autofiring by myself and Acid was suspected. (Tell me who you're with, and I'll tell you who you are)

Now you guys know I never say something without add a proof but this time I'm gonna do it because I know it happened, Merky dropped in a server hosted by sean, he was testing hacks and If sean is enough man to come here and say it, even more if he comes with the logs or merky wanna post here accepting it. It was more or less one year before he got accused in his first topic (posted by kikyo).

I'd like to see if Meva could post his review about him, I'd like to say many more convincing things but my english isn't good at all yet.

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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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cause corner shots are reaction time lol

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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Calie wrote (View Post):
cause corner shots are reaction time lol

Reaction time =/= accuracy

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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:15 pm Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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nice post jorel

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:23 pm Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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sketch wrote (View Post):

Calie wrote (View Post):
cause corner shots are reaction time lol

Reaction time =/= accuracy

lol if you hit htem around the corner often thats first shot 100 accuracy. but he does rj a lot, although i dont notice his accuracy being in the high 40s. I'll get in the 30s usually when i rj i got lucky and got 48 accuracy in a game yesterday with a lot of rjs lol

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:34 pm Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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Calie wrote (View Post):

sketch wrote (View Post):

Calie wrote (View Post):
cause corner shots are reaction time lol

Reaction time =/= accuracy

30-40 doesn't mean he's shooting high 40's lol. Smile

without rail-jumps he would be hitting around 90+ accuracy every game, fact.

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:39 pm Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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Calie wrote (View Post):

sketch wrote (View Post):

Calie wrote (View Post):
cause corner shots are reaction time lol

Reaction time =/= accuracy

Your points aren't making sense, in xfire you told me that he did prefire in the shoot that I explainned you in ctf1 and I understand your position, you are gonna defend it since your clan is defending it.
Merky doesn't do a lotof rjs he does EXCESIVE RJS. (talking about the demos, I don't know now)

I just wanna focus more in that ctf1 shoot.

Let's consider few things:
#1 The reflexs are attached to the speed of the object so you if the speed is increased in a object your reflexs won't react like the normal speed of the object so:
#2 the Crosshair position and the object speed. He aimmed at the edge, so In first instance he lost reflexs here because the object increased his speed cause it got boosted x3 or more.
#3 It wasn't a prefire... He was waiting for the enemy aimming at the edge of the wall or door because he was waiting for the enemy going out WALKING SLOWLY OR JUMPING (common sense), If he would know that the enemy was getting boosted, He would aim with the crosshair in the center of the spot.

I'm gonna upload that demo, I formated so I don't promise nothing, It'd be better to recreate it.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:34 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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n1 Jorel i think everyone knows youre right but o2o

members will keep defending that fag:/ wonder why

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 12:41 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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Calie wrote (View Post):
able to prefire: 3 tries 20 clicks each

cant prefire: 3 tries

am i hacking these things cause i get below 180 ms? lol

No, You aren't. But if stermy does 180 @ his first try then that just prooves the fact that merky is just a very good computer haxor. gg.
To remind You, stermy is the guy that has the best aim in the world. He has won a lot of Quake III Areana events, Unreal Tournament, Doom III, Painkiller, Quake 4 events and hes also pretty good @ quake live (he is a sponsored pro).
I get 165 +/- myself after a few tries. (no pre-clix). I find it pretty impossible to do 100-120ms Wink

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 1:22 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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get off stermys nuts. Hed get raped in ictf. Railers reaction times are faster then most gamers. Cause its all about reaction time..... 16 has hit rock bottom... lol. Defending merky hahaha how much more obvious can people get. Maybe i should just go get some hack and shoot 85. I could give two shits about this douch's reaction time. hes not fuckign spiderman. Its so sad to see 16 being ruled by hackers. I woulda loved to see everyones reaction when the good players were still around if u guys tried to recruit merky. Pixel woulda got laughed at set on fire and pissed on. I cant ever remember accusing promega of hacking. Cali has always been iffy to me but not 100 percent sure. I think its awesome people banned o2o

from scrimming. Community finally took a stand ever though everyclan in the community has hackers. OH if merky had this superhuman reaction time and perfect aim like pixel claims dont u think hed be doing something else other then playing 16 with o2o

. LOL.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:06 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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ok so i started watching the demos of marky holding down the fire button with 60 fps against some noobs. This does not prove anything because the shots he makes arent based on reaction they are based on luck. You cant control when ur rail come in this situation. So every corner shot he makes is pure luck. When guys cam around corners its just luck if he hits. So hes isnt capable of hitting shots like he does in a normal game. ANYBODY COULD DO THIS. 2nd that xfire video of him proving he doesnt wallhack or whatever. lol did anyone else notice hes not doing good at all and hes playing against absolute noobs....???? i only watched a couple minutes of it but he could be autofiring in it. We wouldnt know. As for the reaction test. He could have a color bot. He could use the color bot so that when it turned green hed instantly hit with reaction time of 1ms or something. Then the next one not use his color bot and have a reaction time of 200. which would average out to... u guessed it 100. Wouldnt be hard. Havent looked into the sheep one yet. let me check. Simply put marky hacks. there has never been a more obvious hacker. hes known throughout quake in every mod for being a known obvious hacker. It doesnt matter what pixel thinks. 3 of the top clans all agreed to not scrimming u because of how obvious merky's hacks are.

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:39 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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just for your information: stermy is known for his excessive railgun abuse and he pulls off really impressive shots. So you can call him world's most succesful railgunner. Jeez.. why the fuck do all instagibbers think that weapon players don't know what railgun is, oh yeah.. probably because they don't know what all weapons are -_-

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:50 am Post subject: Re: Im sorry, but what?

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ice9 wrote (View Post):
ok so i started watching the demos of marky holding down the fire button with 60 fps against some noobs. This does not prove anything because the shots he makes arent based on reaction they are based on luck. You cant control when ur rail come in this situation. So every corner shot he makes is pure luck. When guys cam around corners its just luck if he hits. So hes isnt capable of hitting shots like he does in a normal game. ANYBODY COULD DO THIS.

You didn't see the demos of the games on dm17, did you? He still hits in the open. Even when he can't autofire, his playing style is still the same way and he is still able to railjump and kill people while still in the air.

ice9 wrote (View Post):
2nd that xfire video of him proving he doesnt wallhack or whatever. lol did anyone else notice hes not doing good at all and hes playing against absolute noobs....???? i only watched a couple minutes of it but he could be autofiring in it. We wouldnt know.

He still makes the same shots he always does (but this time he only had 40 fps). "Not doing good at all" and yet you think he could have been autofiring lol.

ice9 wrote (View Post):
As for the reaction test. He could have a color bot. He could use the color bot so that when it turned green hed instantly hit with reaction time of 1ms or something. Then the next one not use his color bot and have a reaction time of 200. which would average out to... u guessed it 100. Wouldnt be hard. Havent looked into the sheep one yet. let me check.

Look at the sheep one; it's close to impossible to cheat. Same reflex average.

Also: http://www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime/allresults.php?period=7&expert=on

That reflex test doesn't log scores under 100 ms.

ice9 wrote (View Post):
Simply put marky hacks. there has never been a more obvious hacker. hes known throughout quake in every mod for being a known obvious hacker. It doesnt matter what pixel thinks. 3 of the top clans all agreed to not scrimming u because of how obvious merky's hacks are.

No, 3 of the "top" (lol) clans already were avoiding scrims with us before we even recruited Merky or Hydro. They just didn't want to lose, but they didn't have an excuse for it, so now they blame it on Merky lol.

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