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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:33 am Post subject: beast o2o Reply with quote
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 Obvious  hacker...  
 check  out  this  demo...  he  makes  hack  shots  all  game  but  at  around  11  mins  he  starts  really  getting  on  it.  the  grand  finale  at  13:50  following  me  through  a  wall  with  a  170  ping  his  reaction  time  is  impossible.  Im  sure  you  guys  are  gonna  just  write  this  off  as  a  non  hacker  but  keep  an  open  mind  and  do  something  about  it.watch  with  r_shownormals  for  full  effect.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:31 am Post subject: Re: beast o2o Reply with quote
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 I  can't  even  download  the  demo  without  getting  a  bunch  of  adware.  Actually,  I  can't  download  it  at  all.  Nice  work..
 
 upload  it  to  eRa  next  time.
 
 /edit  ok,  not  only  did  the  recorder  of  the  demo  fail  at  recording  (and  great  job  at  showing  everyone's  IP's),  but  I  honestly  didn't  see  anything  that  can  classify  beast  as  an  obvious  waller.  I  watched  it  first  without  shownormals,  then  with,  and  I  could  hear,  even  without  my  headphones,  every  enemy  he  went  for.  The  times  you  suggested  weren't  even  evidence  to  me  that  he  was  hacking.  And  ping  doesn't  mean  shit.  I  played  in  H$  UK  with  200-230  ping  for  scrims  and  I  made  clear  corner  shots  and  good  open  shots.  Beast  has  been  playing  in  the  U.S.  for  quite  a  while,  so  I  doubt  he's  affected  by  his  EU  ping.  Also,  he  wasn't  making  hack  shots  all  game.  In  fact,  the  first  12  minutes  or  so  are  completely  normal.  I  don't  know  what  you  might  have  been  smoking  when  playing,  but  when  the  view  switched  to  UE  players,  they  were  making  the  same  exact  kinds  of  shots  Beast  was.  Nice  try  though.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:03 am Post subject: Re: beast o2o Reply with quote
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 noob...  sigh...13:50  his  crosshairs  follow  me  through  the  wall.  PIng  doesnt  mean  shit?  what  fucking  game  do  u  play.  there  is  no  point  in  trying  to  save  16.  Run  into  noobs  who  dont  know  what  they  are  looking  at.  I  dont  know  who  tool  is  but  hes  either  a  huge  noob  or  trying  to  protect  beast  or  hes  a  hacker  himself.  Im  not  in  ue.  Beast  was  in  wm  with  me  u  think  i  want  to  call  him  out.  I  never  upload  ...  whats  a  good  site  to  use?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:10 am Post subject: Re: beast o2o Reply with quote
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 yes,  ping  doesn't  mean  shit.  There's  people  who  play  with  200-300  ping  all  the  time  and  still  play  like  a  "pro".  And  if  you're  not  in  UE  then  why  is  your  name  |Ice9|-UE-  and  why  are  you  playing  in  the  scrim?  Sigh..and  I'm  the  noob?  Also,  it  doesn't  matter  if  you  know  me  or  not,  you  wanted  opinions  on  the  demo  and  you  got  mine.  I  don't  need  to  be  someone  of  a  high  status  like  Jesus  or  Wolf  to  give  my  input.  And  at  13:50  he  does  follow  you,  but  then  again,  sound?  I  do  that  all  the  time,  plus  he  could  see  which  way  you  were  moving  before  he  went  behind  the  wall.  Even  if  he  did  follow,  that's  one  instance  out  of  14  minutes  rather  than  "all  game"  like  you  claim.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:16 am Post subject: Re: beast o2o Reply with quote
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 lol....  oh  youre  an  excheater  now  it  makes  sense.  the  only  thing  u  do  is  cheat.  I  notice  cheaters  stick  together.  Did  u  give  him  walls?  If  you  have  hacked  before  you  shouldnt  be  able  to  comment  on  this.  you  have  no  clue  what  it  takes  to  be  a  good  player  and  make  good  shots.  So  pls  dont  bother  posting  again.  This  demo  wasnt  made  today.  Notice  the  date.  Im  not  in  ue.  Way  to  be  an  idiot.  I  have  about  the  best  sound  money  can  buy  and  i  can  tell  u  thats  not  how  it  works.  <good  player  not  an  excheater.  Show  me  1  good  player  with  a  200-300  ping  that  plays  like  a  'pro'.  Id  love  to  hear  who  u  name  so  i  can  laugh  at  u.  go  away...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:22 am Post subject: Re: beast o2o Reply with quote
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 Only  idiots  honestly  refer  to  that  topic.  If  you  read  it  (which  I  doubt  you  did),  I  didn't  cheat  for  the  sake  of  cheating,  and  I  didn't  get  banned  anywhere  nor  did  anyone  care.  It  was  just  stupidity  in  myself  for  trusting  Acid.  Also,  hackers  don't  "stick  together".  I  don't  know  what  kind  of  fantasy  land  you  live  in,  but  I've  caught  numerous  people,  and  the  only  reason  I  "cheated"  in  the  first  place  was  to  further  develop  a  better  anti-cheat  system  so  people  like  you  could  enjoy  playing  without  having  to  get  mad  that  you  lose  to  someone  better  than  you  and  suspect  them  of  cheating.  So,  you're  welcome.
 
 Also,  I  take  back  my  statement.  Watching  that  13:50  part  on  /timescale  -1  he  does  follow  you  entirely  (although  sound  does  help).  It's  suspicious  at  best,  but  not  enough  for  a  -1  to  me.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:27 am Post subject: Re: beast o2o Reply with quote
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 lol  changing  your  mind  good.  Goes  from  im  an  idiot  to  suspicious  at  best.  Sound  does  help  but  it  doesnt  give  the  exact  position  all  the  way  across  rl  through  pillars.  check  out  the  time  before  that  when  hes  camping  rl  and  just  follows  a  guy  through  a  wall  for  no  reason.  Next  time  u  decide  to  go  undercover  and  'protect'  the  community  u  might  wanna  let  the  right  people  know  so  u  dont  come  as  a  cheater.  Everyones  always  got  an  excuse.  Im  not  interested  in  hearing  your  sob  story  about  why  u  got  caught  hacking  lol.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:33 am Post subject: Re: beast o2o Reply with quote
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tool  wrote  (View  Post):
Only  idiots  honestly  refer  to  that  topic.  If  you  read  it  (which  I  doubt  you  did),  I  didn't  cheat  for  the  sake  of  cheating,  and  I  didn't  get  banned  anywhere  nor  did  anyone  care.  It  was  just  stupidity  in  myself  for  trusting  Acid.  Also,  hackers  don't  "stick  together".  I  don't  know  what  kind  of  fantasy  land  you  live  in,  but  I've  caught  numerous  people,  and  the  only  reason  I  "cheated"  in  the  first  place  was  to  further  develop  a  better  anti-cheat  system  so  people  like  you  could  enjoy  playing  without  having  to  get  mad  that  you  lose  to  someone  better  than  you  and  suspect  them  of  cheating.  So,  you're  welcome.
 
 Also,  I  take  back  my  statement.  Watching  that  13:50  part  on  /timescale  -1  he  does  follow  you  entirely  (although  sound  does  help).  It's  suspicious  at  best,  but  not  enough  for  a  -1  to  me.


 
 
 tool  you  told  me  the  exact  same  thing  on  era  forums.you  come  calling  me  a  fail  lol.
 when  cheating  is  the  bigget  fail  on  a  game  on  the  net.
 if  your  about   helping  the  community  ,once  you  got  a  hack  you  should  of  sent  it  to  mav  asap.  fuck  everyone  else's  opinions.  and  send  it  to  make  a  anti  cheat  for  it.not  go  play  bs  around.i  dont  know  howmany  ppl  will  come  up  with  the  greatest  excuses  and  there  been  plenty  of  excheaters  ..who  suddenly  wanna  help  the  community  to  catch  cheaters..like  ''t1ck,damian,kikyo  ,extacy  aka  anthem  ....''  the  list  can  go  on  if  you  look  at  the  who  excheater  list.i  mean..what  other  choice  do  they  got.
 
 on  another  note.beast...iv  said  this  before..alot  of  ppl  found  him  susp  ever  since  eRa.
 he  was  one  of  the  first  to  pass  out  a  cfg  to  zenith..and  we  all  saw  the  hack  commands  in  it.at  same  time  of  state  when  he  was  being  susp.a  few  good  ctfers  also  sid  he  was  susp.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:36 am Post subject: Re: beast o2o Reply with quote
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 I  wasn't  undercover,  I'm  not  sobbing  over  it.  Again  with  your  fantasy  land.  And  I  didn't  get  caught.  I  told  server  admins  I  would  be  finding  out  information  about  wallhacks,  so  it's  not  like  it  was  a  secret.  But  this  is  why  regular  players  like  me  can't  help  out,  because  players  like  you  always  assume  it  was  for  my  personal  gain  to  cheat  in  a  10  year  old  game.  If  you  knew  me,  you  would  laugh  at  yourself.  I  really  don't  give  a  shit  about  quake  3.  I  just  try  and  make  it  more  enjoyable  for  me  when  I  do  decide  to  play,  by  getting  rid  of  idiocy  and  ignorance.
 
 
solo1  wrote:
if  your  about   helping  the  community  ,once  you  got  a  hack  you  should  of  sent  it  to  mav  asap.  fuck  everyone  else's  opinions.  and  send  it  to  make  a  anti  cheat  for  it.not  go  play  bs  around.i  dont  know  howmany  ppl  will  come  up  with  the  greatest  excuses  and  there  been  plenty  of  excheaters  ..who  suddenly  wanna  help  the  community  to  catch  cheaters..like  ''t1ck,damian,kikyo  ,extacy  aka  anthem  ....''  the  list  can  go  on  if  you  look  at  the  who  excheater  list.i  mean..what  other  choice  do  they  got.


 
 I  told  Mav  about  it,  and  he  didn't  care.  Hence  why  I  took  the  liberty  of  doing  it  myself.  He's  the  one  who  even  suggested  that  I  talk  to  server  admins  about  it.  And  I'm  not  coming  up  with  any  excuses.  I  really  was  trying  to  help.  Dicks  like  you  make  me  not  want  to  though.  It  makes  no  one  want  to  help,  and  that's  why  our  community  is  so  fucked  up.  And  FYI,  I  wasn't  an  ex-cheater.  I  never  touched  any  hack  before  that  charade.  NOW  I  suppose  I  can  be  considered  a  ex-hacker,  depending  on  how  you  want  to  take  the  information.
 
 P.S.  Ice,  IT'S  A  GAME.  There  are  no  "right  people".  Everyone  is  equal.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:16 am Post subject: Re: beast o2o Reply with quote
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 lol.  you  didnt  help.  what  i  do  is  catch  cheaters.  
 i  hate  cheaters..most  of  my  flame  is  with  cheaters  excheatters..recent  cheaters..whatever..dont  go  off  with  your  mind  by  blamming  me  about  this  community  being  a  piece  of  shit..
 most  of  the  clans  being  hypocrits  or  being  a  contridiction  is  what  started  it  off.excheaters..should  never  get  chances  to  join  top  clans..why  is  it  that  excheaters  get  caught  leave..come  back  6  months  later  claim  there  clean  help  out  the  community  by  catching  cheaters..but  same  time..there  pawnin  jus  as  they  where  when  they  cheated.i  already  know  this  topic  here..isnt  gonna  go  far.ppl  will  just  back  up  stupidity.i  watched  this  video..LMAO...talk  about  susp  to  the  max.
 i  wouldnt  doubt  it  if..he  gets  away  with  it..like  you  said..the  community  is  gone  to  shit.clans  giving  up  breaking  up..ppl  dont  care  nomore.ppl  getin  2nd  3rd...shit  proly  even  4th  chances..lol
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:56 am Post subject: Re: beast o2o Reply with quote
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 Is  this  topic  about  the  demo  or  is  it  a  flame  war?
 
 @  Demo  I  saw  NOTHING  suspicious  aside  from  that  ONE  shot,  but  if  you  want  to  try  and  get  him  -1'd  on  that...  Lol  wow.  I  record  myself  all  the  time  and  find  that  coming  into  quad  from  yellow  hall,  my  crosshair  appears  to  follow  an  enemy  alot,  even  though  I  am  just  starting  to  look  into  quad  and  not  face  the  wall  anymore.  In  general  it  happens  on  corners  and  when  trying  to  pick  off  people  entering  a  doorway.
 
 IMO,  should  get  more  demos  than  that  one.  Although  it's  pointless  now  because  you  posted.
 
 BTW  Lag  has  SOME  effect,  but  when  you  get  accustomed  to  playing  with  it,  it's  nearly  negligible.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:16 am Post subject: Re: beast o2o Reply with quote
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 beast  moved  on  tl  ql  and  you  guys  r  coming  with  this  now?  i  didnt  watch  the  demo,  but  i  hardly  doubt  he  hacks.  ice,  you  accuse  alot  ppl.  you  even  fuckin  accused  me..  that  already  shows  you  fail  after  getting  a  beating.  ain't  gonn  watch  the  demo,  cuz  i  know  he  doesnt  hack.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:39 am Post subject: Re: beast o2o Reply with quote
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 Noobs  say  Beast  hacks  Laughing   Laughing
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 hmm  first  of  all  ...  i  rape  every  single  one  of  u.  Kyzer  ...  if  your  on  a  got  caught  hacking  list.  Id  say  youre  a  hacker.  Dont  talk  to  me  about  ability.  Ive  been  playing  fps  forever.  Since  when  has  beast  been  on  ql?  Id  love  to  play  with  him  in  insta.  If  u  cant  see  anything  fishy  in  that  demo..  like  i  said  before  your  either  a  complete  noob  (core)  protecting  beast  blindly  (kyzer)  or  a  hacker  yourself  (kyzer,  tool  and  who  knows  probably  core).  Ive  yet  to  accuse  someone  and  have  been  wrong.  Ive  only  posted  a  couple  times  about  hackers  so  i  wouldnt  have  done  this  unless  i  was  completely  sure.  Ive  been  playing  with  beast  a  long  time.  But  if  this  is  whats  going  to  happen  when  a  hacker  gets  put  up  for  judgment  by  someone  other  then  mav  this  16  community  is  going  to  go  in  the  shitter.  To  late.  Notice  the  only  people  who  have  responded  so  far  are  hackers  besides  solo(who  i  made  aware  of  my  post).  This  is  kinda  a  test  to  see  what  would  happen  if  i  exposed  a  hacker  to  its  clan.  Well  see.  I  was  pessimistic  now  im  becoming  hopeless.
 
 "BTW  Lag  has  SOME  effect,  but  when  you  get  accustomed  to  playing  with  it,  it's  nearly  negligible".?????  his  playing  style  and  reaction  time  dont  match  his  ping.  aka  walling  or  autofire.  Its  super  obvious  when  someone  with  a  170  ping  can  beat  a  50  ping  around  a  corner  in  a  pure  reaction  test.
 
 kyzer  no  one  cares  what  you  have  to  say.  If  your  not  gonna  watch  the  demo  dont  post.
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 beast  doesn't  even  play  1.16  anymore  lol  and  he  doesn't  play  instagib  on  ql  either   Rolling Eyes  
 
 
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