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Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned
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Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, Archer, and Hater be banned from server?

Hell Yes!

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No I am with Era on this one

[ 1 ]

Don't care..

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Total Votes : 68

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

.Ice.
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well with all tha fingers pointed toward .eRa| ..

whatchu gonna do?

-Med. Majic Mushrooms

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

guga
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man..its just ur stupid brother..he always lies
can u fucking understan that!!
if he always lie...how the hell do u want us to trust him?
he think edit its the same as update
LOL?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

tick
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hater wrote (View Post):
we have never edited any type of information.. and as for tick... hell i dont know why you would trust him.

Why would you not trust me ? How are you better than me?

Dunno why you would trust classic, he lies about everything and is a hypocrite. Refer to my previous posts. As you can see hater, the community has spoken and voted. Smile

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

guga
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LoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL
check this out guys

Dunno who the fuck was that guy..but he wanted to ban or kick me cause i was using the name /Anti-eRa/
do i care?
lol stupid nubs..
after all this situation u think i care get banned from a hacker server..
how many time had u hack in that server? XXXXXXXXX?

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

p1x3L
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Lucky for us, they posted on the forums and gave us their ip Smile

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

Society
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well we got thier ip from the logs rofl!!

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

K!kyo
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Omg guga.. That's priceless haha.. xD

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

tick
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Society wrote (View Post):
well we got thier ip from the logs rofl!!

their ips =D

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

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i read the first page only. the three of them are fucking stupid, so i dont care what they get banned for, being mexican? i couldnt be fucked. and elmos attitude isnt any better.

actually classic and elmo are fucking stupid, the rest less so because they blindly stick up for each other and whatnot. they only say smaller stupid things, classic pretty much is the biggest douchebag i can think of.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

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tick wrote (View Post):
He lies so much, he can't get his story straight. He says stop namecalling, but if you read his posts almost in every one of them he calls someone stupid, or something similiar. He says maverick edits the logs, but later changes it to updates the logs. He says 2 times a day, but as u can see maverick has an auomatic script to update the logs once a day....Classic also has a bad background, in dev1nace he got caught camping and suspected cheating...hmmmm

couldnt resist. I love the post in eRa where rob posted the screenshot questioning elmo and a wallhack, and classic said a bunch of stupid shit followed by his usualy smilies.... then after looking stupid as fuck he just played along like it was some joke. lol, kids.

The biggest problem I've come to realize is your guys' attitude. You as a community can chose to say fuck eRa, fuck Dallas, and make a change. Who says you have to play with eRa? Who says you have to play them? Who says you have to play in their server? If the community is so united against them you can change the current situation you hate so much.

As for the eRa vs the brothers situation, classic and the brothers are era, and if you argue that you're mistaken-- their attitude and how they present themselves shapes the image of era, and any feelings represented towards them is represented onto the clan, especially when they usually back each other up.

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

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Just to say..

I told you guys so 2 years ago when hicap posted the original demos.
http://www.dev1ance.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1777

Then again in April, 06. Then Again in May, 06. Then again in June, 06.

This whole post may help the cause because it has a lot of IP information within it but I do not have the time to check through it all so forgive me for leaving it up to key or meganoob to check it. If someone could inform them that I have posted this information for me that would be very nice. Back as far as April 3rd, 2006, bulma posted in the admin section of the dev1ance.net website asking who "smo8ter" was, as that name was showing up after classic was banned from dev1ance.

And I quote her -

"smo8ter. showed up on march 20th. Logs say Dallas and Cedar Hill Texas. IP's so far have been 67.164.137.244, 70.248.32.42, 67.166.177.157. Using logmonster I haven't been able to correlate this to anyone. I would appreciate if anyone knows or has any idea's.

Edit: Also pings very low, like 7-15."

Maybe those IP's will serve a purpose? Idk right now.

I quote skap, who replied first to bulma's post.

"I belive itws Birdman/Classic/Hater getting around their ban. THey all pin like 10 now with thier new ISP. You can call them out next time.

1204044 2005-09-07 rename 70.248.33.176 United States Dallas, TX SBC Internet Services HaTeR 00"

Also,

"April 2, 2006 at 21:00 Player rename: ( from .eRa|BirdMaN. ) .eRa|JuaNChing0n. 67.164.137.244"

But later in the thread (after classic lied to bulma saying he never overrode his ban at dev1ance) bulma posted this.

"Just came out of a game with smo8ter. In fact I'm speccing him right now. He claims to have never stepped foot in any of Slack's servers before he came here within the last few weeks.

Here are the brothers recent IPs from texas
April 2, 2006 at 21:00 Player connect/disconnect: .eRa|BirdMaN. 67.164.137.244 23
April 2, 2006 at 21:00 Player rename: ( from .eRa|JuaNChing0n. ) .eRa|BirdMaN. 67.164.137.244 1
April 2, 2006 at 21:00 Player rename: ( from .eRa|BirdMaN. ) .eRa|JuaNChing0n. 67.164.137.244 1
April 2, 2006 at 21:00 Player rename: ( from .eRa|BirdMaN. ) .eRa|BirdMaN. 67.164.137.244 1
April 2, 2006 at 21:00 Player connect/disconnect: .eRa|BirdMaN. 67.164.137.244 1
April 2, 2006 at 21:00 Player connect/disconnect: .eRa|^The^LaW. 67.164.137.244 5
April 2, 2006 at 21:00 Player rename: ( from -TrII- ) .eRa|^The^LaW. 67.164.137.244 1
April 2, 2006 at 21:00 Player connect/disconnect: -TrII- 67.164.137.244 1
March 29, 2006 at 22:29 Player connect/disconnect: . 67.164.137.244 24
March 29, 2006 at 22:29 Player connect/disconnect: .eRa|HaTeR. 67.164.137.244 13
March 29, 2006 at 22:29 Player rename: ( from HaTeR ) .eRa|HaTeR. 67.164.137.244 4
March 29, 2006 at 22:29 Player connect/disconnect: HaTeR 67.164.137.244 6
March 29, 2006 at 22:29 Player rename: ( from . ) HaTeR 67.164.137.244 3
March 29, 2006 at 22:28 Player rename: ( from . ) .eRa|BirdMaN. 67.164.137.244 4
March 29, 2006 at 22:28 Player connect/disconnect: .eRa|TrIIIogy. 67.164.137.244 8
March 29, 2006 at 22:28 Player rename: ( from .eRa|^The^LaW. ) .eRa|TrIIIogy. 67.164.137.244 2
March 29, 2006 at 22:28 Player rename: ( from ***wanna-be*** ) .eRa|^The^LaW. 67.164.137.244 3
March 29, 2006 at 22:28 Player connect/disconnect: ***wanna-be*** 67.164.137.244 5
March 28, 2006 at 01:11 Player rename: ( from .eRa|Beatriz. ) .eRa|^The^LaW. 67.164.137.244 1
March 28, 2006 at 01:11 Player rename: ( from .eRa|cLa$$ic. ) .eRa|Beatriz. 67.164.137.244 1
March 28, 2006 at 01:11 Player rename: ( from ]V[ot1vati0n. ) .eRa|BirdMaN. 67.164.137.244 2
March 28, 2006 at 01:11 Player connect/disconnect: ]V[ot1vati0n. 67.164.137.244 2
March 28, 2006 at 01:11 Player connect/disconnect: .eRa|cLa$$ic. 67.164.137.244 2
March 28, 2006 at 01:11 Player rename: ( from .eRa|^The^LaW. ) .eRa|cLa$$ic. 67.164.137.244 1
March 28, 2006 at 01:11 Player rename: ( from /LaTinZ/cLa$$ic ) .eRa|^The^LaW. 67.164.137.244 1

It is now confirmed. So I was lied to.

From Desire
139515 2006-04-01 connect 67.164.137.244 United States Dallas, TX Comcast Cable smo8ter.
139503 2006-04-01 connect 67.164.137.244 United States Dallas, TX Comcast Cable smo8ter.

Slack, you decision?

edit: Carlos was just in the server and confirmed its one of them, but refuses to say which."

Another post, as quoted by bulma.

"Well Carlos told me to ask birdman. Some unknown player said "i bet its classic." Carlos refused to say who it was as he knows who it is.

What bothers me is when I interrogated smo8ter I made it prefectly clear that honesty would help. And I was lied to over and over. I even brought up how some brothers we know recently got fiber, and again, denial." --Bulma

Some other IP's as quoted by bulma

"67.164.137.244
67.166.177.157

70.248.32.42
70.248.34.86
70.248.35.32

There are others older, but texas logs list everything as the same date before april...I assume the others are before they got fiber. So that's what I got for now. I will monitor their IP as it changes."

The most important information comes at the very end of the thread, when slackX posted their ip range information. As quoted by slackX:

"Too lazy to look for his ip but I'll post them here :P There are hundreds of ranges.

68.93.40.0/22 # 40 to 43
68.93.112.0/22 # 112 to 115
68.95.248.0/21 # 248 to 255
69.149.32.0/19 # 32 to 63
69.149.64.0/21 # 64 to 71
70.243.216.0/23 # 216 to 217
70.248.32.0/22 # 32 to 35
70.248.100.0/22 # 100 to 103
67.166.128.0/19 # 128 to 159
67.166.160.0/19 # 160 to 191
70.248.32.0/19 # 32 to 35"

All of this IP information was either taken from dev1ance.net SS| logs or texas.noghost.net logs. Happy hunting Smile

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

domi
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nice damien maybe that will help

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

.Ice.
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wow .. if I was classic/birdman/hater .. I'd jus quit now while I was ahead ..

No use in playing a game if no one in tha community likes you ..

but then again people from -oNu- and .eRa| tend to think differently

-Med. Majic Mushrooms

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

meva
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i don't blindly stick up for anyone, but i won't blindly denounce anyone either.
i know that they have said a lot of stupid shit, but with all the shit they're given i don't blame them.

i think they were wrong to say most of they shit that they did, but i don't think that what has been posted is solid enough. there are too many holes which nobody has addressed for me to call that solid.

i hope people will think before they say anything about era as a clan.
back in the day ice talked a lot of shit, but i never projected that onto o2o

. same goes for gang.
if anyone says anything about era, remember you are saying it about me, about bulma, about jessica, about batard, about carlos, and the list goes on.

i have refrained from voting because i don't see why i should have any say in who is banned from your server.

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: Re: Should Hater, Class, Bird, Elmo, and Archer be banned

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zzz eRa phails.
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